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9/11 – My own review of the entire event.

writer Joël v.d. Reijden  
updated March 7, 2005  
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1.0 Introduction
1.1 Events of the day and important data. (detailed dimensions, performance, deaths, conversions)
1.2 Bush, Cheney, Rice: “No one would ever have imagined this, we could not have known.”
1.3 Well, we kinda knew but we didn’t tell you.
1.4 Smells like a standdown.
1.5 The standdown explained. Military & law enforcement drills on the morning of 9/11.
1.6 The standdown explained. The important people are missing.
   
2.1.1 WTC 1&2. People sent back up the towers
2.1.2 The possible use of explosives at the time the planes impacted the building to right before the first collapse
2.1.3 The possible use of explosives just before and during the collapse of both of the towers
2.1.4 Reports from witnesses who seemed to have felt the effects of explosives
2.1.5 Explosives have also been reported by firemen
2.1.6 What demolition experts have said and the evidence for the use of explosives
2.1.7 The towers were built to resist a 757 or 767
2.1.8 How intense was the fire? And why did the firemen established their commandpost inside the towers?
2.1.9 More on the temperature inside the World Trade Center towers
2.2 WTC 7: It’s becoming very, very hard to dismiss explosives.
2.2.2 The 7 WTC 'pull it' controversy.
2.3 The official FEMA investigation and the destruction of evidence.
2.4 Security drills and evacuations in the weeks before the attack.
2.4.2 Securacom and their responsibility for the WTC complex, United Airlines and Dullas Airport.
2.4.3 Other important information about the World Trade Center.
2.5 An international conspiracy - The Zionist connection.
2.5.2 More circumstantial evidence of Zionist involvement in 9/11.
2.5.3 The Israeli moving van controversies and their connections to the Venice Airport.
2.6 The ‘coincidental’ destruction of sensitive data because of the attack and other financial benefits.
2.7 The 'no United Airlines at the WTC-hypothesis' is gaining some sudden momentum in mid-2004. Why oh why?
   
3.1 The Pentagon. My own theory, a quick table on what people actually saw and some general info
3.2 Dozens of witnesses: A very loud silver American Airlines airliner crashed into the building.
3.2.2 Extra flight controller information about the path of Flight 77.
3.3 Witness accounts: The noise, the blast, the heat, the injuries and the damage.
3.3.1 Outside accounts of the attack.
3.3.2 Inside accounts of the attack.
3.3.3 Witnesses: Some hear more than one explosion, others give the explanation.
3.3.4 The debris that is coming down: fiberglass and aluminium, concrete and possibly 2 engines.
3.3.5 More on the heat during and after the explosion.
3.3.x Unused.
3.3.7 The color of the smoke.
3.3.8 What rescue workers have observed inside the building during and after the event. [also blackboxes]
3.3.9 Another plane inbound.
3.4 Confiscation and destruction of evidence.
3.5 The spotted second plane, a C-130H. It was there and it seemed to have a good reason to be there.
3.6 Alternative hypothesis and theories that something else than Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.
3.6.2 Theory number 1: A missile struck the building - the 'video' - a rumsism - misquotes. [disinfo imho]
3.6.3 Theory number 2: A Global Hawk, F-16 or other military jet hit the Pentagon. [disinfo imho]
3.6.4 Theory number 3: A truckbomb was placed next to the Pentagon and there was no plane. [disinfo imho] + Meyssan info
3.6.5 Theory number 4: A combination of the above theories. [disinfo imho]
3.6.6 Theory number 5: Another type of airliner flew into the Pentagon, possibly a 737. [misinfo imho]
   
4.1 Flight 93: Confirmed data and the witnesses on the ground during the first day.
4.1.2 Flight 93: The small, white jet that has been spotted.
4.2 The jet fighter theory.
4.3 Questions about the passengers of the plane.
4.4 Questions about the telephone calls.
4.5 Possible scenarios.
   
5.1 The technical data of the airliners.
5.1.1 The technology behind the black boxes.
5.1.2 The ‘1.5G limit so NORAD took over the plane myth’.
5.1.3 Airplane altitude and speed.
5.1.4 My opinion if hijackers could have flown those planes.
5.1.5 The claimes of Colonel Donn. De Grand-Pre. [disinfo or misinfo imho]
5.1.6 Flashes, rails, pods, etc seen on the WTC planes [only on video, not by witnesses].
   
6.1 The big conspiray, Bin Laden and his gang of freedom-haters. Some of the hijackers turned out to be alive.
6.2 The evidence presented against the 19 hijackers.
6.3 Official, missing & withheld evidence about the hijackers.
6.4 Flight training in Venice Beach, Florida. Hundreds of young arabs in a retirement-community.
6.5 The evidence presented against Osama Bin Laden and what the man supposedly had to say for himself.
6.6 Possible Assassinations
6.7 Tangled webs they weave - Persons and companies that might have known of, or have been involved in 9/11.
   
7.1 A war in the planning. Project for the New American Century.
7.2 Osama Bin Laden, his family, the Saudi Kingdom and the Bush family.
7.3 Something is going on between the countries around Pakistan, the US and Mohammed Atta.
7.4 The obviously very dependant 9/11 commission.
   
8.1 Sources

1.0 Introduction

"49.3% of New York City residents and 41% of New York citizens overall say that some of our leaders "knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act...Despite the acute legal and political implications of this accusation, nearly 30% of registered Republicans and over 38% of those who described themselves as "very conservative" supported the claim...Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/-3.5."
- Zogby International, public opinion tracker. Poll taken before NY Republican covention from August 24 to 26 2004.

It's been quite some time since I first started gathering this data. At first, I expected to make a small list of maybe 2 pages, but at this moment it has grown to about 75 pages. (In MS Word, Times New Roman, letter size 9) Small additions and corrections will be made when new information becomes available, so it is unlikely that this article will be "finished" any time soon. In this document you will find all the flaws in the official story that are known to me. Keep in mind, that I only started adding sources after many months of gathering. I never expected the contradictions would be this immense and didn't plan on sharing it with everyone else. However, most second-hand sources known to me have been mentioned at the links-page, so you will be able to start your own research with relative ease. Most of the newer information has a link in small size text at the end of the quote and most material that has been written before this, will be updated over time. Most quotes already have detailed names and dates of the persons and/or newspapers involved.

My english grammer and my overall grasp of the picture surrounding 9/11 were in pretty bad shape at the beginning of this article, so don't be surprized to find some sections riddled with all kinds of grammatical mistakes. Every section will be updated over time. I also noticed that some of the earlier sections I wrote, have been oversimplified or have small mistakes in them. They also will be corrected over time.

1.1 Events of the day and important data:


Edited chart from media lab

The time between the events of the day:

Flight 11 fails to respond:
Flight 175 first signs of trouble:
Flight 11 hits North Tower:
Flight 77 [Pentagon] hijacked:
Flight 175 hits South Tower:
Flight 93 is hijacked:
Flight 77 hits the Pentagon:
South Tower collapse:
Flight 93 preliminary crash:
Pentagon collapses:
North Tower collapse:
WTC 7 mystery collapse:
8:13:xx
8:41:32
8:46:26
8:50:xx
9:02:54
9:16:xx
9:40:xx
9:59:04
10:06:05
10:15:xx
10:28:31
17:20:xx
First fighter jets should be scrambled within 15 min. (Nato QRA)
crosses the path of the pursued Flight 11
94th - 98th floor according to FEMA

78th - 84th floor according to FEMA
at least, that is the time NORAD gets notified
average time. 9:37 to 9:43 is possible

according to seismic seismic data

Time between:

Flight 11 hijack and crash:
Flight 175 hijack and crash:
Flight 77 hijack and crash:
Flight 93 hijack and crash:

First hijack and last crash:
First possible interception within:

North Tower impact and collapse:
South Tower impact and collapse:
33 minutes
21 minutes
50 minutes
50 minutes

113 minutes
124 minutes

102 minutes
56 minutes





[officially fighters were still 11 min. away]

Main 9/11 bases:

Otis ANG
Langley AFB
Andrews AFB (Air Force One)
2 F-15’s on 24 hour standbye with guns, heat-seeking missiles extra gas, pilots in G-suits and warmed-up engines. (NATO QRA)
2 F-16’s on 24 hour standbye with guns, heat-seeking missiles, pilots in G-suits and warmed-up engines. (NATO QRA)
2 squadrons of combat-ready F-16’s and F/A-18’s available. 121th fighter squadron of the Air National Guard were also stationed there who were able to respond within minutes when given the order, even though they are not on NATO QRA. (Order was given after the Pentagon was hit)

Distance between:

Otis ANG and NY
Langley AFB and NY
Andrews AFB and NY

Otis ANG and DC
Langley AFB and DC
Andrews AFB and DC

Otis ANG and Somerset
Langley AFB and Somerset
Andrews AFB and Somerset

313km / 195 miles
450km / 281 miles
275km / 172 miles

650km / 406 miles
213km / 133 miles
18km / 11 miles

738km / 461 miles
388km / 242 miles
213km / 133 miles

Maximum speed of airplanes at altitudes around 30.000 feet / 10 km:

Boeing 747
Boeing 757
Boeing 767
F-15 Eagle
F-16 Falcon
F/A-18 Hornet
Hercules C-130
625mph [+] 1000kmh [+]
600mph [+] 960kmh [+]
600mph [+] 960kmh [+]
1875mph [+] 3000kmh [+]
1500mph [+] 2400kmh [+]
1190mph 1915kmh
375mph [+] 600kmh [+]
[comparison]


[45.000ft]

[40.000ft]

Airliners hijacked part 1:

Flight number

77
93
11
175
comparison

plane type

Boeing 757-223
Boeing 757-222
Boeing 767-223ER
Boeing 767-222
Boeing 747-400

max. passengers

228
228
216
216
416-524

weight empty

58 tons
58 tons
80 tons
80 tons
181 tons

fuel cap.

11.489 gal / 43.490 L
11.489 gal / 43.490 L
16.700 gal / 63.210 L
16.700 gal / 63.210 L
63.705 gal / 241.140 L

Airliners Hijacked part 2:

type

757-200
767-200
747-400

length

47.3m
47.2m
70.7m

wingspan

38.0m
47.6m
64.4m

height tail*

13.6m
15.8m
19.4m

top fuselage to bottom engine**

5.4m
6.6m
9.7m

width fuselage

3.8m
5.3m
6.9m

Dimension of buildings:

building

WTC 1
WTC 2
WTC 7
Pentagon
Pentagon windows

height

415m
417m
174m
23.56m
2.1m

sides

2x 63.5m
2x 63.5m
?
280.9m
1.5m [width]

stories

110
110
47
5
x

employess

20.000 - 25.000 est.
20.000 - 25.000 est.
?
25000
x

Casualty estimates:

north tower employees
south tower employees
firemen
police officers
flight 11
flight 175
subtotal WTC complex

Pentagon building
flight 77
subtotal Pentagon

flight 93
on the ground
subtotal Somerset County

total deaths

NY - people treated in hospitals
DC - people treated in hospitals

1640
620
347
22
93
65
2787

125
64
189

44
0
44

3020

6291
88





[77 passengers, 5 hijackers, 9 staff, 2 pilots]
[51 passengers, 5 hijackers, 7 staff, 2 pilots]

 

[53 passengers, 5 hijackers, 4 staff, 2 pilots]


[37 passengers, 4 hijackers, 5 staff, 2 pilots]

Conversions:

1 mile
1 feet [foot]
1 gallon
mach 1
celcius
1.6 km
0.3048m
3.7854 L
around 1075kmh
5/9(F-32)



[Speed of sound, it varies according to atmospheric conditions]
[just reverse formula when needed]

1.2 Bush, Cheney, Rice: “No one would ever have imagined this, we could not have known.”

1.3 Well, we kinda knew but we didn’t tell you.

1.4 Smells like a standdown.

There are a couple of bases in the United States that have fighter jets on 'Quick Reaction Alert' (NATO - QRA), 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. These jets are fully armed and have warmed up engines. Pilots are standing by with their G-suits strapped on and if necessary, a vehicle is standing by to take them to the runway. The wards also are standing-bye to disconnect the planes from the warming-up equipment, take off the wheel blocks and open the hanger doors. After these QRA forces have given the get-go, these jet fighters must be airborne within 15 minutes, according to NATO protocols. However, in the US pilots always try to be up in the air within 5 minutes. Otis ANG and Langley AFB are 2 of these bases where QRA jets are stationed.

Forces who were not required to be up in the air within 15 minutes were also plentiful in the Washington area. Fighter jets were patrolling the coast and there were at least a dozen more AFB in the surrounding area of the hijacked planes. Andrews AFB, just south of Washington DC, had 2 squadrons of F-16’s and F/A 18’s. The 121th fighter squadron of the Air National Guard were stationed there who were able to respond within minutes when given the order, even though they are not on NATO QRA. (The order was given after the Pentagon was hit) It seems that at least some of the planes could have taken out Flight 77 or Flight 93 way before they reached there final destinations. It also seems no order was given to do so, until it was too late.

As soon as the FAA loses contact with a plane it notifies the National Military Command Center (NMCC) in the Pentagon which then makes contact with NORAD. NORAD knows which bases in the surrounding area have fighters on standbye (QRA), meanwhile the NMCC contacts Donald Rumsfeld to get the order to scramble the planes. (that is officially needed since july 2001) In case of a real emergency fighters might be scrambled without Rumsfeld approval but in no way will these planes be shot down. Since june 2001, that is the sole responsibility of the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld. (Michael Ruppert)

Airliners and small planes are being intercepted all the time. Between september 2000 and juli 2001 this has happened 67 times and normally it is no problem to have a fighterjet looking in the cockpit of the troubled plane within 25 minutes after the FAA contacts the military through the NMCC. The FAA usually tries to contact the plane for a few minutes before calling the military. So, Flight 11 gets a few minutes to fly after 8:13 before the military gets warned. It would be quite close to intercept that plane. This is entirely different from the other 3 planes.

In the above text and map you can see for yourself that any of those last 3 planes should have been intercepted. Even Flight 175 shouldn’t be a ‘close call’, since fighter jets should already have been pursuing Flight 11 and were very close to Flight 175 when it got into trouble. Fighterjets are a lot faster than commercial airplanes as you can see in the above tables.

The failure to intercept Flight 77 is probably the strangest of all. Flight 77 had been able to fly all the way back to Washington DC, within miles of Boiling and Andrews AFB, 80 minutes after the first hijacking. After it reached the Washington suburbs, it makes a 270 degree turn around the military heart of the US and finally dives into the Pentagon.

Fighterjets also should have been much, much sooner to Flight 93. It was flying straight into at least 4 airforce bases when it was already known for about 20 minutes that it had been hijacked. Even if the airplane was shot down at 10:03 / 10:06, instead of crashing the reaction would have been much too slow. Fighter jets from every airforce base in the area should have already been swarming around Flight 93.

What happened in the armed forces on the the morning of 911 is still not known. A lot of sites dicuss this in great detail although reliable information is scarce. Here are some of the main points:

1.5 The standdown explained. Everybody was confused. Military & law enforcement drills on the morning of 9/11:

On the morning of september 11 a lot of different exercises were being prepared or were already in progress. This has been thoroughly documented. NORAD officers and civilian air traffic controllers have stated in interviews that they thought it was just another exercise. Later research, mainly by Michael Ruppert and Stanley Hilton, seems to indicate that some of these exercises included fake targets that would show up on the radar screen, confusing everybody who tried to take counter-measures. Stanley Hilton says he found out through numerous interviews with airforce and CIA officials, that there had been about 35 of these exercises in the 2 months preceding September 11. He also argued that Bush reacted so calm on the morning of September 11, because he also thought it was just another exercise. Even so, a lot of information regarding the exercises remains sketchy. (Michael Ruppert - Crossing the Rubicon and numerous interviews at Rense & Coast to Coast AM) (Stanley Hilton - 2003 Alex Jones interview - 2004 Alex Jones interview)

The following exercises were being prepared or were going on at the morning of september 11:

1. Unnamed exercise carried out by the CIA and NRO: At 9 AM on the morning of September 11, a drill started at the NRO office, which is located 4 miles from the Dulles Airport. 3000 people had to be evacuated as fast as possible out of the NRO buildings after a (simulated) airplane had crashed into the complex. When it became known there was a real attack going on, the exercise was cancelled, 3000 people were sent home leaving only the essential people. (Associated Press - August 22, 2002)
2. Vigilant Guardian & Vigilant Warrior: (Probably) different sides of the same exercise coordinated by NORAD and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The plot was that at least one airliner was being hijacked on the morning of september 11 and possibly more. It had already started when the hijackings were taking place and NORAD was fully staffed because of it. On the morning of September 11 and/or in the past both the World Trade Center and the Pentagon have been simulated targets of these exercises. (Aviation Week & Space Technology, June 3, 2002, Newhouse News) (USA Today - Aril 18 2004) (CNN - April 19, 2004) (The Olympian - April 19, 2004) (Richard Clark in his book 'Against All Enemies' - March, 2004)
3. Northern Vigilance & Northern Guardian: More exercises carried out by NORAD. For this exercise a lot of fighter jets had been moved from the east coast to Canada and Alaska to counter a Russian attack coming from the poles, leaving the east coast more vulnerable.(Toronto Star, December 9, 2001)
4. Tripod II: A biowarfare exercise that was going to start on September 12 in NY city. It was being coordinated by the US justice department and the authorities of NY and located at Pier 29, below the Brooklyn Bridge, which connects Manhattan to Brooklyn. It has been a long discussion whether or not FEMA was involved in this excercise even though it was already known through an interview on CBS right after 9/11. In that interview someone from the National Urban Search & Rescue (part of FEMA) admits (freely) they came into town late monday evening, several hours before the attack on the WTC. The excercise itself was confirmed by Rudolph Giuliani during the 9/11 hearings in May of 2004. But besides these 2 testimonies it has always beeen denied by FEMA itself...why?

1.6 The standdown explained. The important people are missing.

A document introduced in June 2001, CJCSI 3610.01A by the joint chiefs of staff states that only the secretary of defense [Rumsfeld] can issue a request for “potentially lethal support “ in case of a hijacking. So, it remains a bit vague what the exact bounderies are here, but it does mean that only Rumsfeld can officially give an order to shoot down an airplane in case of a hijack. That is perfectly reflected by Bush and Cheney when asked about the slow reaction to send fighters into the air during the 9/11 hearings:

”… the Vice President stated that he called the President to discuss the rules of engagement for ordering air cover. But, [Cheney and Bush] did not order air cover because it would do no good unless pilots had instructions on whether they were authorized to shoot if the plane would not divert. The job of issuing such instructions belonged to Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld.”

So this basicly means: “Let’s all sit back and do nothing till Rumsfeld has turned his mobile phone back on.” Rumsfeld went conveniently missing-in-action during the first 1.5 hours of the hijacks. So even though they said they eventually gave the order to shoot down Flight 93 [which hasn’t been confirmed by the commission] it was much too late.

The 9/11 commission concluded this about the conversations between Bush and Rumsfeld:
“If a hijack was confirmed, procedure called for the President to empower the Secretary of Defense to send up a military escort, and if necessary, give pilots shoot-down orders…The president apparently spoke to Secretary Rumsfeld for the first time that morning shortly after 10:00…no one can recall the content of this conversation but it was a brief call in which the subject of the shootdown authority was not discussed.”

Out of these words from the the 9/11 commisssion / Bush & Cheney testimony it seems like the president, the Commander in Chief doesn’t have the authority to shoot down a plane if it is not approved by Rumsfeld? OK…why then have surfaced so many other stories that Bush & Cheney had given orders [after 10:00AM] to shoot down the plane after the Pentagon crash. If they could do it at that moment, why not sooner? [there’s no proof these orders have been given]

At the time of the attacks Donald Rumsfeld was in the Pentagon. As soon as he heard about the attacks he should have gone to the National Military Command Center [also in the Pentagon] where the nerve center of the military apparatus is found. At the NMCC you can speak to and coordinate between agencies such as the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, NORAD, FAA, Airforce Force One, the White House, etc. Since half of the Pentagon was watching the attacks live on TV it is highly questionable that Rumsfeld would not have known, especially since he’s an essential character in coordinating the counter-attacks. Doesn’t he have a mobile phone?

The head of the NMCC was Brigadier General Montague Winfield. He should have given the request of the FAA for fighter support immediately to NORAD. Meanwhile he should have contacted Donald Rumsfeld. But Donald Rumsfeld isn’t there and wait a minute…the Brigadier General went missing during the attack! Better yet, he went missing after the first hijack had already started. What the...?! What are all these people doing? Let’s check it out:

The essence of the story is that every agency had to be [and normally is] in very close contact with each other through the NMCC, but that because of a sequence of 'mistakes' everything went wrong. There were so many mistakes that almost 1.5 hours after the first signs of an attack, an unindentified hijacked airliner could fly past the Pentagon, over the White House with the Situation Room in it, over Capitol Hill, along Andrews AFB, back to Pentagon and finally crash into it. And all that in the most heavely defended airspace of the most powerful nation on earth. Automaticly believing that all this was just a ‘screwup’ is quite amazing to me.

2.1.1 WTC 1&2. People sent back up the towers.

2.1.2 The possible use of explosives at the time the planes impacted the building to right before the first collapse.

2.1.3 The possible use of explosives just before and during the collapse of both of the towers

2.1.4 Reports from witnesses who seemed to have felt the effects of explosives

2.1.5 Explosives have also been reported by firemen

2.1.6 What demolition experts have said and the evidence for the use of explosives

2.1.7 The towers were built to resist a 757 or 767

2.1.8 How intense was the fire? And why did the firemen established their commandpost inside the towers?

2.1.9 More on the temperature inside the World Trade Center towers

Having recently reviewed your team's report of 10/19/04, I felt the need to contact you directly.

As I'm sure you know, the company I work for certified the steel components used in the construction of the WTC buildings. In requesting information from both our CEO and Fire Protection business manager last year, I learned that they did not agree on the essential aspects of the story, except for one thing - that the samples we certified met all requirements. They suggested we all be patient and understand that UL was working with your team, and that tests would continue through this year. I'm aware of UL's attempts to help, including performing tests on models of the floor assemblies. But the results of these tests appear to indicate that the buildings should have easily withstood the thermal stress caused by pools of burning jet fuel.

There continues to be a number of "experts" making public claims about how the WTC buildings fell. One such person, Dr. Hyman Brown from the WTC construction crew, claims that the buildings collapsed due to fires at 2000F melting the steel (1). He states "What caused the building to collapse is the airplane fuel…burning at 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. The steel in that five-floor area melts." Additionally, the newspaper that quotes him says "Just-released preliminary findings from a National Institute of Standards and Technology study of the World Trade Center collapse support Brown’s theory."

We know that the steel components were certified to ASTM E119. The time temperature curves for this standard require the samples to be exposed to temperatures around 2000F for several hours. And as we all agree, the steel applied met those specifications. Additionally, I think we can all agree that even un-fireproofed steel will not melt until reaching red-hot temperatures of nearly 3000F (2). Why Dr. Brown would imply that 2000F would melt the high-grade steel used in those buildings makes no sense at all.

The results of your recently published metallurgical tests seem to clear things up (3), and support your team's August 2003 update as detailed by the Associated Press (4), in which you were ready to "rule out weak steel as a contributing factor in the collapse." The evaluation of paint deformation and spheroidization seem very straightforward, and you noted that the samples available were adequate for the investigation. Your comments suggest that the steel was probably exposed to temperatures of only about 500F (250C), which is what one might expect from a thermodynamic analysis of the situation.

However the summary of the new NIST report seems to ignore your findings, as it suggests that these low temperatures caused exposed bits of the building’s steel core to "soften and buckle." (5) Additionally this summary states that the perimeter columns softened, yet your findings make clear that "most perimeter panels (157 of 160) saw no temperature above 250C." To soften steel for the purposes of forging, normally temperatures need to be above1100C (6). However, this new summary report suggests that much lower temperatures were be able to not only soften the steel in a matter of minutes, but lead to rapid structural collapse.

This story just does not add up. If steel from those buildings did soften or melt, I’m sure we can all agree that this was certainly not due to jet fuel fires of any kind, let alone the briefly burning fires in those towers. That fact should be of great concern to all Americans. Alternatively, the contention that this steel did fail at temperatures around 250C suggests that the majority of deaths on 9/11 were due to a safety-related failure. That suggestion should be of great concern to my company.

Thanks for your efforts to determine what happened on that day. You may know that there are a number of other current and former government employees that have risked a great deal to help us to know the truth...Please do what you can to quickly eliminate the confusion regarding the ability of jet fuel fires to soften or melt structural steel. "

2.2 WTC 7: It’s becoming very, very hard to dismiss explosives.

2.2.2 The 7 WTC 'pull it' controversy.

2.3 The official FEMA investigation and the destruction of evidence.

2.4 The unusual security drills and evacuations in the weeks before the attack.

2.4.2 Securacom and their responsibility for the WTC complex, United Airlines and Dullas Airport.

2.4.3 Other important information about the World Trade Center.

2.5 An international conspiracy - The Zionist connection.

2.5.2 More circumstantial evidence of Zionist involvement in 9/11.

2.5.3 The hilarious Israeli moving van controversies and their connections to the Venice Airport.

2.6 The ‘coincidental’ destruction of sensitive data because of the attack and other financial benefits.

  Comex [total] 750 million dollars [+]
  Bank of Nova Scotia 200 million dollars [+]
  total 950 million dollars [+]

Some newspapers mentioned the amounts of gold that was being recovered in november 2001 by a group of policemen and firefighters. Those amounts account for around 1/6 of the gold and 1/3 of the silver that were mentioned in the detailed TimesOnline article.
Another very interesting detail is that during the clearing of the rubble in the WTC 5 delivery tunnel a 10 wheel lorry was found crushed by falling steel. It was loaded with gold, but apparently the driver got away because no body was found. Anyone seen ‘Die Hard with a vengeance’? It was produced by (20th Century) FOX, just like the Lone Gunman pilot. The German aspect is very interesting, since besides Arabs, the Germans seem to have played a prominent role in the attacks.

2.7 The 'no United / American Airlines at the WTC-hypothesis' is gaining some sudden momentum in mid-2004. Why?

3.1 The Pentagon. My own theory, a quick table on what people actually saw and some general info:

Since I measured the hole in one of my articles and looked at what all the witnesses had to say, I am convinced that an American Airlines 757-223 hit the building. My personal guess is that the plane flew low over the mountains and high hills of the Allegheny Plateau. It's a guess, but as you will see further in this article that all the evidence points to American Airlines flight 77. This does not mean that it is likely that no one is hiding what actually happened at the Pentagon. Because if no one did, you would expect that all the security camera videos were already available in the public domain.

Summary on the quotes you are going to find in this document:

about 89 The amount of eye witnesses I gathered who stated they saw an object crash into the Pentagon. The vast majority of the still available ones.
at least 45 The amount of eye witnesses who reported seeing a plane and described it with words like: 'airliner', 'big', 'silver', 'roaring', etc.*
at least 23 The amount of eye witnesses who specifically said they saw an American Airlines jet. In all cases a large jet.
at least 22 The amount of witnesses who reported the noise of the plane was very loud to deafening.
at least 17 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a plane running down light poles when crossing the the highways.
at least 12 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw and heard the plane increase it's throttle at the last seconds.
at least 11 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a C-130H flying 30 seconds behind a jetliner.
at least 5 The amount of eye witnesses who specifically stated they saw the plane had it's gear up.
   
at least 2 The amount of eye witnesses who stated that they saw a small corporate jet, without doing any creative interpretating of the witness accounts.
at least 0 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a missile. What the person thought he heard isn't relevant!
at least 0 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a military jet fighter at the time of the crash.
at least 0 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw a Global Hawk at the time of the crash.
at least 3 The amount of witnesses who reported the sound of the plane was quite noiseless. (One of them acknowledged it was the shock)
at least 1 The amount of eye witnesses who stated they saw the plane had it's gear down. (Indirect, said a wheel hit a pole)
at least 25 The amount of witnesses who have said something that might point to the use of explosives or incendiaries. (White flash, powerful blast waves which blew people through the air, molten glass, burning aluminium, spreading debris over hundreds of yards back to where the plane came from, including 2 engines, the missing plane itself, etc.)

* This way you can get a good indication if they saw a large or a small plane. If someone just said: "I saw the plane and I saw it crash", it is not counted, even though chances are 99,9999% they were talking about a 757-223, called flight 77.

By looking at this table, I know most of you will think I ignored all the quotes on missiles and silent planes. I haven't. Just look them up. Quotes were gathered from many places including large lists from Eric Bart and SomeGuyYouDontKnow33.

Some general info on flight 77:

3.2 Dozens of witnesses: A very loud silver American Airlines airliner crashed into the building:

3.2.2 Extra flight controller information about the path of Flight 77:

3.3 The Pentagon: Witness accounts: The noise, the blast, the heat, the injuries and the damage.

Outside the Pentagon:

3.3.2 Inside the Pentagon:

3.3.3 More than one explosion:

3.3.4 The debris that is coming down: fiberglass and aluminium, concrete and possibly 2 engines.

3.3.5 More on the heat during and after the explosion:

3.3.x Unused.

3.3.7 Smoke:

It’s hard to say what the white smoke is is we read the following accounts. It could be dust thrown in the air during the impact, but it can also be a description of an explosive. [gray smoke puff followed by flash/fireball followed by thick black cloud] Hard to say, not really a ‘smoking gun’ if you ask me.

3.3.8 What rescue workers have observed inside the building during and after the event.

3.3.9 Another plane inbound:

Don Fortunato, detective who arrived a few minutes after the impact on the scene:
“There’s a second incoming, 20 miles out, inbound to us. So people started packing up what they could, and we ran.. Other police officials were told there were two to four unaccounted-for planes in the skies. It was extremely difficult to move all those medical supplies and people.. About two minutes later, we heard two F-16s screaming over the Pentagon and circling.” [more on the evacuation because of the treat of new airliners can be found in quotes above]

3.4 Confiscation and destruction of evidence:

Jose Velasquez, supervisor nearby gas station where a security tape had been confiscated:
”The gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to have recorded the moment of impact…I've never seen what the pictures looked like… The FBI was here within minutes and took the film.”
Allen Cleveland [saw a silver airliner and C-130]:
”I have done my research on this and according to time magazine it took 24 minutes before Norad was supposedly notified about this particuliar jet and fighters were scrambling to intercept at that time. Isn't it odd how there is Not a single mention of this aircraft in ANY of the articles written about this crash? Also if you had not noticed... There is not a single picture or live footage of the actual jet prior to its crash at the Pentagon. Nor is there any of the one that crashed in Pennsylvania. But if anyone who rides the metro-rail knows, there are plenty of video cameras all around national airport at the parking garages and the high level security buildings found all around Crystal city. (3 of which I have personally found pointed directly towards crystal city which would have given a great line of site shot of that jet prior to the crash as well as any other plane which might have been following it. I personally believe that the government new full well that this was about to happen and they are hiding something a lot bigger than they are willing to let out. I was interviewed at Washingtonpost.com and gave them my full story, but they did not print it as I have told you.”
Article in the Washington Post, May 6, 2004 - "FAA Managers Destroyed 9/11 Tape":
"Hours after the hijacked planes flew into the World Trade Center Towers, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field, an FAA manager at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center gathered six controllers who communicated or tracked two of the hijacked planes and recorded in a one-hour interview their personal accounts of what occurred, the report stated... as is common practice.

According to the report, a second manager at the New York center promised a union official representing the controllers that he would "get rid of" the tape after controllers used it to provide written statements to federal officials about the events of the day.

Instead, the second manager said he destroyed the tape between December 2001 and January 2002 by crushing the tape with his hand, cutting it into small pieces and depositing the pieces into trash cans around the building, the report said.

The inspector general concluded...'The destruction of evidence in the Government's possession, in this case an audiotape -- particularly during times of national crisis -- has the effect of fostering an appearance that information is being withheld from the public.

The report was conducted at the request of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) after the panel investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, officially known as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, complained that the FAA had been less than forthcoming in turning over documents and issued a subpoena to the agency for more information.
" (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A6632-2004May6&notFound=true)

3.5 The second spotted plane, a C-130H.

A military C-130H spectre cargo plane was seen flying behind Flight 77. The eye witness accounts on the ground vary a little bit from each other and from the pilot, but it was there. And as far as I can see it had a good reason to be in the neigborhood.

Allen Cleveland [witness who a saw silver airliner crash at the Pentagon…has more to say about camera’s a little further]:
”Within 30 seconds of the crash I witnessed a military cargo plane (C130) fly over the crash site and circle the mushroom cloud. My brother in law also witnessed the same plane following the jet while he was on the HOV lanes in Springfield. He said that he saw a jetliner flying low over the tree tops near Seminary RD in Springfield, VA. and soon afterwards a military plane was seen flying right behind it.”
Kelly Knowles, a few miles from the Pentagon:
”A few seconds later, a second plane that seemed to be chasing the first passed over at a slightly different angle… There was most definitely a second plane…It's so frustrating because nobody knows about the second plane, or if they do they're hiding it for some reason.” (The quote "saw two planes moving toward the Pentagon, one veering away as the other crashed." is often used for people promoting the theory that the second plane, that got away, was Flight 77.)
Wheelhouse and his sister, Pam Young from the Arlington National Cemetery, less than 1 mile away from the Pentagon:
”They watched the jet approach and slam into the Pentagon. Both of them, as well as at least one other person at the funeral, insist that there was another plane flying near the hijacked jet…Wheelhouse said the second plane looked like it may have been a C- 130 transport plane, but the other three witnesses say they're not sure what the plane looked like… Wheelhouse believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon. As Flight 77 descends toward the Pentagon, the second plane veers off west.”
Vin Narayanan, USA Today reporter [saw airliner clip poles]:
”I hopped out of my car after the jet exploded, nearly oblivious to a second jet hovering in the skies.”
Joel Sucherman [The first jet was an American Airlines, definetly no learjet according to him]:
”I saw a second plane.”
Arlington worker who declined to be interviewed:
" …a mysterious second plane was circling the area when the first one attacked the Pentagon.”
John O’keefe, editor of ‘Influence’ [lobbying magazine] in his car at Interstate 395, up Washington Boulevard [didn’t hear large explosion as the jet crashed]:
”The first thing I did was pull over onto the shoulder, and when I got out of the car I saw another plane flying over my head…. Then the plane—it looked like a C-130 cargo plane—started turning away from the Pentagon, it did a complete turnaround.”
Scott P Cook and Ray Verle from fifth floor of the Portals building, at theTidal Basin and Maine Avenue:
”As we watched the black plume gather strength, less than a minute after the explosion, we saw an odd sight that no one else has yet commented on. Directly in back of the plume, which would place it almost due west from our office, a four-engine propeller plane, which Ray later said resembled a C-130, started a steep decent towards the Pentagon… from east to west… and it was descending at a much steeper angle than most aircraft.. the plane reached the Pentagon at a low altitude and made a sharp left turn, passing just north of the plume, and headed straight for the White House... But right over the tidal basin, at an altitude of less than 1000 feet, it made another sharp left turn to the north and climbed rapidly. Soon it was gone...”
Lt. Col. Kenneth McClellan, a Pentagon spokesman:
”A C-130 cargo plane had departed Andrews Air Force Base en route to Minnesota that morning and reported seeing an airliner heading into Washington at an unusual angle. Air-traffic control officials instructed the propeller-powered cargo plane to let them know where it's going. But, there was no attempt to intercept the hijacked airliner. A C-130 obviously goes slower than a jet. the Pentagon had no knowledge of the C-130's encounter, because all reports were classified by the Air National Guard, the Pentagon spokesman said. It was very hard to get any information out..”
The 9/11 Commision:
”The 9/11 Commission reports that it is a C-130H and the pilot specifically identifies the hijacked plane as a 757. Seconds after impact, he reports, “Looks like that aircraft crashed into the Pentagon sir.”
The pilot of the C-130, Lt. Col. Steve O'Brien:
”I took off at 9:30 from AFB and was instructed by Reagan Airport Flight Control to intercept and indentify an incoming plane. When air traffic control asked me if we had him [Flight 77] in sight, I told him that was an understatement—by then, he had pretty much filled our windscreen. Then he made a pretty aggressive turn so he was moving right in front of us, a mile and a half, two miles away. I said we had him in sight, then the controller asked me what kind of plane it was. That caught us up, because normally they have all that information. The controller didn't seem to know anything.I said it was either a 757 or 767 and its silver fuselage means it is probably an American Airlines plane. They told us to turn and follow that aircraft — in 20-plus years of flying, I've never been asked to do something like that.”
”Just after the explosion I could see the outline of the Pentagon.[smog] I then asked if should set up a low orbit around the building, but I’m told to get out of the area as quickly as possible. I took the plane once through the plume of smoke and thought if this was a terrorist attack, it probably wasn't a good idea to be flying through that plume.”

3.6 The Pentagon: Alternative hypothesis and theories that something else than Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.

Below are some theories/assumptions. Most of them I consider pure disinformation except for a few that I believe to be misinterpretations by witnesses on the ground at the time of the crash.

3.6.2 Theory number 1: A missile struck the building - the 'video' - a Rumsism - misquotes:

The missile theory is primarily based on the ‘released’ Pentagon video, which is without the slightest doubt a complete hoax. I don’t even want to post the pictures here because it eats away my limited bandwidth and wastes your printer inkt. You can find the 'video' all over the net. I will give some pointers that I personally find peculiar:

1. First of all, it’s not an official release. No official US federal organisation has said: ‘Yes, it’s from us and it is a real untampered video.’ So if these 5 frames ever prove to be hoax no one is responsible.
2. Only 5 frames. In a single seconde you have at least 25fps (PAL or NTSC differ a bit) and many security camera have 60fps or even 100fps. Just watch any movie of a plane crash, missile launch or even the detonation of a high explosive and watch it frame by frame in a video editing program. You’ll see immediately that these snapshots have been carefully selected. Then you gotta ask yourself…why?
3. Where is the plane that everyone saw? It could not have hidden itself behind that square block on the foreground. Planes don’t leave smoke trails low on the ground and missiles don’t knock lampposts down. No one reported seeing a smoke trail, everyone reported seeing a plane knocking down lampposts. My conclusion…the smoketrail wasn’t there.
4. A plane doesn’t move fast enough to move from behind the square block in frame 1 all the way into the building in frame 2. Maybe you need to do a calculation when you are a presenting evidence in a court but here on the net I would think common sense will do, just watch the WTC impact video’s frame by frame. There’s just no way.
5. The first fireball/flash in the Pentagon movie looks exactly like what you’d expect from a high explosive. Very white and a very rapid expansion [but still, lots of frames missing.] I hardly see any debris flying and I would be amazed if the firetruck and the firehouse would still be standing after such an explosion. You would also think large pieces of the plane will be blown back since you cannot shatter a plane with a single bomb except when you’re using such a heavy bomb that you blow thalf the Pentagon to pieces.
6. The follow-up fireball looks like what you expect from a plane crash or a heavy bomb [after 2-3 seconds] but since we have no idea of the time between the images we just cannot tell.
7. Without any additional comment the film was dated [underside screen] september 12 2001 with a very wrong time. Of course nobody forgot to adjust this date when hoaxing the video, as some have speculated. Nobody is that stupid. And it would be no problem to adjust this date either, as some other people have speculated. It could simply be that the people who controlled the camera didn’t care about the date or it could be done on purpose for some extra confusion and dividing among the 'truth seekers'.

Conclusion: The 'missile trail' is probably pasted in since not one witness has described seeing it, almost all frames are missing and we cannot say anything useful about the explosion since we have no idea of the timetable. It would be no problem for anyone with a basic knowledge of Photoshop to make a picture of the Pentagon and create these GIF's themselves. My advice; Watch it…then loose it. Oh, and I read on different sites that there is something wrong with the shadows. I’ve looked and looked but I cannot see anything abnormal. Maybe it’s just me.

Donald Rumsfeld, october 12 2001, in Parade Magazine:
”Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center.”

1.You can refer to the plane as a missile because it was used as one. It’s not a bad description at all.
2. The (inaudible) is a little bit to convenient. It’s the only ‘inaudible’ word on the whole page and it’s exactly on such a spot that the whole conspiracy-community goes: ‘What? What?!… Tell me!!’
3. Rumsfeld is not Bush. He doesn’t make ‘Rumsims’ and if he does he will probably say very calm: ‘I am sorry, that’s a confuzing description. Can you please ignore those words, I’ll describe it better for you.’ And the one reporter that would choose to post it anyway would undoubtly have heard that ‘inaudible’ part as well. The reporter also had to get the approval of the editor of this large magazine.
4. Plastic knives? Is that another ‘rumsims’?
5. The ‘leaked’ video and the more recent and megadumb ‘no plane at WTC theory’ fit very well with this ‘confession’ of Rummy. Unfortunatly, both of these theories are dead wrong and only distract of what really happened.

My opinion: Not worth looking into, since it doesn’t stroke with any of the witnesses and it might even have been a deliberate move.

’Soundwitnesses’ of the missile theory, that are often quoted as proof that a misslie struck the building:

Tom Seibert, a network engineer at the Pentagon:
"We heard what sounded like a missile, then we heard a loud boom...We just hit the dirt. We dived instinctively. We were sitting there and watching this thing in New York, and I said, 'you know, the next best target would be us. And five minutes later, boom." [This 'witness' was watching TV inside the Pentagon.] (http://a188.g.akamaitech.net/f/188/920/5m/www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/daily/sep01/attack.html)
Michael DiPaula, project coordinator Pentagon Renovation Team, in construction trailer 75 feet from the crash:
”Suddenly, an airplane roared into view, nearly shearing the roof off the trailer before slamming into the E ring. It sounded like a missile… Buried in debris and covered with airplane fuel, he was briefly listed by authorities as missing...There were three loud thump, thump, thumps. You could hear the metal cracking and crinkling, and the explosion.” (Sunspot - Baltimore sun)
Mike Walter, USA Today (also quoted above):
I was sitting in the northbound on 27 and the traffic was, you know, typical rush-hour -- it had ground to a standstill. I looked out my window and I saw this plane, this jet, an American Airlines jet, coming. And I thought, 'This doesn't add up, it's really low...And I saw it. I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings. It went right there and slammed right into the Pentagon...Huge explosion, great ball of fire, smoke started billowing out." [Nice quote but he clearly stated he saw a big loud American Airlines jet as everyone else.] (http://archives.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/trends/09/11/witnesses/)
Update: In May of 2002 Mike Walter is interviewed on camera, by Digipresse, on site at the Pentagon, to tell us again what he saw:
"I said that as a metaphor. (The cruise missile) To me it was like a missile was fired at a building. It exploded as you'd imagine a missile to explode. ... It was an American Airlines jet. And I watched it go into the building. I saw the big 'AA' on the side...It wasn't a bomb, it wasn't a missile, it was an American Airlines jet, and I watched it go into the building." (http://digipressetmp3.teaser.fr/uploads/492/walter2.ram)


Tony Terronez, from a nearby higway:
”So I got about 100 yards or so past the heliport and then all of the sudden I heard this loud screeching sound that just came out of nowhere and it intensified. This huge WHOOSH! And something made me look in my rearview mirror and by the time I looked up I saw the side of the Pentagon explode....At that point I realized -- you see at that point I didn't know it was a plane, I thought it was a missile strike...” [He didn’t see anything impact, he only heard a loud ‘whoosh’ and saw an explosion.] (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/linkscopy/amazing1001.htm)
Lon Rains, Editor Space News, from Springfield somewhere on Interstate 395:
”With the Pentagon to the left of my van at about 10 o’clock on the dial of a clock, I glanced at my watch to see if I was going to be late for my appointment. At that moment I heard a very loud, quick whooshing sound that began behind me and stopped suddenly in front of me and to my left. In fractions of a second I heard the impact and an explosion. The next thing I saw was the fireball. I was convinced it was a missile. It came in so fast it sounded nothing like an airplane...I remember vividly that as I turned off my cell phone I was watching the almost serene image of thick pieces of flaming fiberglass insulation floating down onto the highway.” [By reading the text, he did not see any object, only a large fireball a few moment after impact. We would need an interview with this reporter to be sure.] (http://www.space.com/news/rains_september11-1.html)
Kirk Milburn, a construction supervisor for Atlantis Co., who was on the Arlington National Cemetery exit of Interstate 395:
"I was right underneath the plane," said Kirk Milburn, a construction supervisor for Atlantis Co., who was on the Arlington National Cemetery exit of Interstate 395 when he said he saw the plane heading for the Pentagon. "I heard a plane. I saw it. I saw debris flying. I guess it was hitting light poles," said Milburn. "It was like a WHOOOSH whoosh, then there was fire and smoke, then I heard a second explosion." [Again, he states he saw a plane. The secondary explosion though, as reported by more witnesses, is very interesting.] (http://a188.g.akamaitech.net/f/188/920/5m/www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/daily/sep01/attack.html)

Another thing that missile theory supporters argue as a smoking gun for their theory, is the fact that the constuction workers covered all the grass in the neigborhood with a layer of sand on top of a layer of rocks. This was supposedly done to protect the workers against the effects of depleted uranium that are often found in missile warheads of the US. Personally, I think it’s very normal to cover the ground of the reconstruction area with these two layers, otherwise you will end up in a giant mudpool the first time it rains. Every truck or crane will become stuck. And I don’t think Donald Rumsfeld would be helping people at ground zero if their was depleted uranium. He would have known about it.

Conclusion: We are still waiting for any evidence that a missile hit the Pentagon. Nobody even remotely thought about seeing this. Lose the theory. Besides that, a missile would produce a big round hole, not a 'fusealage-wings hole'.

3.6.3 Theory number 2: A Global Hawk, F-16 or other military jet hit the Pentagon:

This one is very simple to disprove. A global Hawk is so fragile that it could never have knocked down all those street lights and a F16 doesn’t have the wingspan to do that. You can say that somebody took down those lights after the crash in front of hundreds, if not thousands of witnesses, but if you really believe that you seriously have a problem. Anyway, nobody even remotely described these planes at the moment of the crash and a lot of people saw those street lights get run down by an American Airlines jet.

3.6.4 Theory number 3: A truckbomb was placed next to the Pentagon and there was no plane - Meyssan the UN globalist?

This theory was fired up by Thierry Meyssan in his book “L’effroyable Imposture”. Unfortunatly, it doesn’t correspond with anything that the witnesses have have been telling about the attack. Maybe this guy should learn to read and speak english a little bit better. (Yes, I know mine could use a little improvement too) This absolutely is a 100% garbage theory and I just cannot believe that anyone serious could ignore so must evidence that proves him wrong. A few days after his book came out the so called ‘security camera video’ came out and the controversy started. Then it was Eric Hufschmid’s turn with the missile/Global Hawk theory. Although we absolutely cannot rule out that their wasn’t anything in the building or in the airplane, the theory of a truck bomb or that there was no plane involved does not hold ground. Lose it.

Update: Just read somethin pretty interesting. Thierry Meyssan is the director of the left-wing Voltaire Network (Réseau Voltaire). Why I think this is interesting is because Voltaire's role in the French revolution of 1789 is quite clear. According to a conspiratorial view of history, backed with many facts, Masons Voltaire and Rousseau (not to be confused with Réseau, which means Network) were key players in the Illuminati, the organisation that was at the base of the French revolution. A case can be made that this organisation survived through the ages, causing waves of Marxist/Socialist revolutions in Italy, Germany, Belgium and the famous 1917 Bolshevik Revolution in Russia.

This organisation was known to create multiple versions of 'reality' for it's enemies (the rest of the world) and then playing them out against each other. And that has basicly happened in the 9/11 Truth community.

Voltaire Network has subsidiary websites; A Spanish 'Red Voltaire' and a more basic, English 'Shabak Voltaire'. The websites are pro-UN and very anti-United States (under Bush). A lot of their articles have to do about how vulnerable the United States is and how Russia and China, in combination with some European countries are trying to build an economic and military alliance against the United States. I cannot read Spanish and French that well, but I higly suspect they both are pro-Communist/Socialist.

They have the '9/11 Pentagon Strike' disinfo-of-the-year-movie on the frontpage of 2 of their 3 websites. It's also quite interesting to see how it starts with a speech of Hitler, blaming a small clique of Jews for all the problems... It's not real hard to imagine Bush is trying to build a Third or Fourth (Roman) Reich, although I would have to dig deeper at the meaning of it all.

Thyrrie Meyssan speech before Arabs - He proposes that the United Nations should come in and do a new truly independent 9/11 Investigation. Isn't that along the lines what Michael Moore also wants, to solve all the problems of the United States citizens? In this speech you will find the most famous disinfo quote of all: "something like a cruise missile with wings". Obviously, this selective quoting has been done on purpose.

I looks like Putin advisor Tatyana Koryagina was right.

3.6.5 Theory number 4: A combination of the above theories including a version whereby an F16 flew under Flight 77. Flight 77 flew over the Pentagon, the F16 fired a missile and crashed into the Pentagon. [disinfo in my opinion]

Again, please show me a witness or any peace of good evidence that backs this up. 1 or 2 helicopters have been seen, 1 American Airlines jetliner has been seen that actually crashed into the building and 1 C-130H has been seen right behind the jetliner. Nothing else, lose these theories.

3.6.6 Another type of airliner flew into the Pentagon, possibly a 737: [just misinfo in my opinion]

Steve Patterson, 43, a graphics artist, who was watching TV in his 14th-floor apartment in Pentagon City, when he saw a silver commuter jet fly past the window:
"The plane was about 150 yards away, approaching from the west about 20 feet off the ground, Patterson said. He said the plane, which sounded like the high-pitched squeal of a fighter jet, flew over Arlington cemetary so low that he thought it was going to land on I-395. He said it was flying so fast that he couldn't read any writing on the side. The plane, which appeared to hold about eight to 12 people, headed straight for the Pentagon but was flying as if coming in for a landing on a nonexistent runway..." [The route the plane is flying seems to be accurate, but since this person couldn't even identify the American Airlines logo, which dozens of other could, he doesn't seem to have been in a particularly great spot to have given an accurate description of the airplane.] (http://a188.g.akamaitech.net/f/188/920/5m/www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/daily/sep01/attack.html)
Anonymous, his location is also unknown, supposedly from NBC on 9/11:
"I saw what looked to be maybe a 20-passenger corporate jet, no markings on the side, coming in at a shallow angle like it was landing right into the side of the Pentagon." [Same as above. Even though I could find this quote on only one small geocities site, which tried to prove a 757 did hit the building, I do believe it is authentic]
John O’Keefe, who was listening to the radio in his car at Interstate 395 [Also saw the C-130 cargo plane turning away after the crash]:

"I don’t know whether I saw or heard it first -- this silver plane; I immediately recognized it as an American Airlines jet...It came swooping in over the highway, over my left shoulder, straight across where my car was heading. There was a burst of orange flame that shot out that I could see through the highway overpass. Then it was just black. Just black thick smoke.
...The eeriest thing about it, was that it was like you were watching a movie.
There was no huge explosion, no huge rumbling on ground, it just went ‘pfff.’ It wasn’t what I would have expected for a plane that was not much more than a football field away from me." [These statements about the sound and the explosion are so contradictory when comparing it to all the other claims I think it’s just adrenaline and shock. A few witnesses described seeing everything in slow-motion or loosing track of sound as soon as they understood the situation. At least one in included somewhere above. He does however, state to have seen an American Airlines jet. Of course you can argue how large that jet was.] (http://www.nylawyer.com/news/01/09/091201l.html)
Ervin Brown, who works at the Pentagon:
”I saw pieces of what appeared to be small aircraft on the ground, and the part of the building by the heliport had collapsed.” [quite a normal reaction considering there were mainly only very tiny pieces of aircraft littered around the neighborhood. A lot of people who had seen the plane crash, said the same thing]
Steve DeChiaro, engineer:
”I reached the west side of the building I saw a light post bent in half. But when I looked at the site, my brain could not resolve the fact that it was a plane because it only seemed like a small hole in the building,… No tail. No wings. No nothing…shortly after 10 a.m. police yelled at people to get back. Just as we're about to open the door[to get into the building], they start screaming, 'There's another inbound plane'…For nearly 15 minutes, they stood watching the Pentagon burn and periodically checked the sky for another plane.” [It is not clear to me if he saw the plane, he was about a mile away when the impact occurred. The the hole doesn’t seem that large and the plane was entirely gone so it’s not really that strange he finds it hard to believe]
State Department employee Ken Ford looking from the 15th floor:
”We were watching Reagan National Airport through binoculars a short distance away. The plane was a two-engine turbo prop that flew up the river from National. Then it turnedback toward the Pentagon. We thought it had been waved off and then it hit the building.” [It isn’t entirely clear but since he says he thought it was waved off I assume they didn’t follow it all the way. In that case another plane that they weren’t watching could have crashed into the building. That being said, he’s also talking about a turboprop engine which looks very different from a turbofan engine of a 757. It’s highly likely that he saw a different plane than the one that flew into the Pentagon. He is the only one who has spoken of a turboprop]
D.S. Khavkin., from an 8 story building nearby:
”At first, we thought it was the jets that sometimes fly overhead. However, it appeared to be a small commercial aircraft...The engine was at full throttle. First, the plane knocked down a number of street lamp poles, then headed directly for the Pentagon and crashed on the lawn near the west side the Pentagon.”[It depends on what you call small, compared to a 747 the 757 is pretty small indeed. Without an additional interview nothing can be said about his statement]
Don Wright in an interview with the Sun Sentinel (audio):
“It was about 9:35 and I was looking out our 12th floor windows at 1600 Wilson Boulevard in Rosslyn, Virginia, and I watched this...it looked like a commuter plane, two engined ... come down from the south, real low, perceived right on and crashed right on into the Pentagon…I watched it come down real low over the trees and it just dipped down…came down right over 395 right into the Pentagon” [Some people argue that because he describes a seeing a commuter plane, that it could only have been a small plane. Well, on the internet you can find that press reports call a Fokker-100 with 122 passengers also a commuter airplane or some people (search this page) call an 757 and 767 a commuter airplane. We would need an additional interview to clarify what he exactly saw.]

Jim Sutherland, a mortgage broker:
”Jim Sutherland, a mortgage broker, was driving near the Pentagon at 9:40 a.m. when he saw a 737 airplane 50 feet over Interstate 395 heading in a straight line into the side of the Pentagon. The fireball explosion that followed rocked his car. Drivers began pulling over to the side - some taking pictures - not quite believing what they were seeing.”
Terry Morin, form. United States Marine Corps Aviator, from Federal Office Building [Navy Annex]:
”I believed at the time that it belonged to American Airlines, but I couldn't be sure. It looked like a 737 and I so reported to authorities.”
Mike Dobbs, Marine Corps officer from one of the upper levels in the Pentagon:
”… I saw an American Airlines 737 twin-engine airliner strike the building.”

So 3 known witnesses saw a 737. I must say, I have found this quite interesting for a while, especially because I thought the Pentagon hole was to small for a 757-223. But now that I’m convinced that that is not the case (either the other way around, the hole is too big for a 737) I don’t see a reason why someone would substitue a 757 with a 737 or why they should say that a 757 has been hijacked while it is a 737. Then again, a boeing 737 and 757 can easily be confused with each other, especially if the plane is moving fast and low. (I wouldn't have recognized a 757 from a 767 or 737 before 9/11) Another thing is, if the plane is coming from where the sun is, you might not be able to judge the color of the airliner that easy. These 3 witnesses are an overwhelming minority that leads me safely to believe that indeed Flight 77, a Boeing 757-223, slammed into the building around 9:40AM. And except for the type of plane they saw, their statements fit right in with the majority.

4.1 Flight 93: The confirmed facts and the witnesses on the ground.

4.1.2 Flight 93: The small, white jet that has been spotted.

There are lots of small, white jets with the engines mounted at the back and a T-shaped tail, but the jets from Bombardier and Gulfstream are one of the few who have these upright fins at the end of the wings as described by one witness.

"Jurors in the trial of accused Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui ...Additional recordings would be played from the cockpit of an executive jet that tracked Flight 93 on Sept. 11, according to written proposals subject to approval by U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema....An official for NetJets, a company that sells shares in private business aircraft, confirmed that the plane tracking Flight 93 belonged to the company. The official, who asked not to be identified by name, said the company was asked not to comment on the Sept. 11 flight but would not say who made the request." (Holland Sentinal 08/09/2002)

Netjets is owned by a company of Warren Buffett (Berkshire Hathaway Inc.) who was at Strategic Command on the morning of september 11 holding a charity event (more on this later). Bush landed on this base before flying back to Washington to give his speech to the nation. Netjets has these Gulfstream planes in it's fleet, but no Learjets. These jets go anywhere from 520 to 560 mph / 832 to 896 kmh on altitude and fit right in with the witnesses and the official conformations that a Netjets plane was in the neigborhood during the crash.

Glenn Cramer, local emergency dispatcher:
”We got the call about 9:58 this morning from a male passenger stating that he was locked in the bathroom of United Flight 93 traveling from Newark to San Francisco, and they were being hijacked. He was very distraught. He said he believed the plane was going down. He did hear some sort of an explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane, but he didn't know where.”
Since in the official version all the telephone calls are accepted as truth without question you would think the FBI would do a serious investigation of this call. Glenn Cramer had been told to stay quiet after his initial account and the tape was confiscated.
FBI spokesman Bill Crowley:
”The conclusion of the investigation is that no explosives were used on board the plane.”
”There is no evidence of a small jet in the neigborhood during the crash.” Some time later they changed that story and said that there was a white plane just crossing the area at 5000feet.

4.2 Jet fighter theory.

There is some evidence that military jets were in the neigborhood of Flight 93 when it went down but this is not confirmed by people on the ground in the following days.

A flight controller from New-Hampshire ignored the ban to speak and told the press:
”…an F-16 fighter closely pursued United Airlines Flight 93... the F-16 made 360-degree turns to remain close to the commercial jet, the controller said…he must've seen the whole thing”
Nashua Telegraph Newspaper:
”FAA air traffic controllers in Nashua have learned through discussions with other controllers that an F-16 fighter stayed in hot pursuit of another hijacked commercial airliner until it crashed in Pennsylvania.”
Ernie Stuhl, the mayor of Shanksville:
”I know of two people - I will not mention names - that heard a missile…military F-16 fighter jets were very, very close.”
Susan Mcelwain, who saw a white plane, said she talked that day to the wife of an Airforce employee:
”She said her husband had called her that morning and said 'I can't talk, but we've just shot a plane down.”
Dennis Mock, from Shanksville:
”I think it was shot down…that's what people around here think.”

4.3 Questions about the passengers of the plane:

The 4 minute Cockpit Voice Recorder release (at least, the only one I could find) is no absolute proof that the official story is true:

1. You don’t hear anyone storming the cockpit.
2. According to the news media we are talking around 9:22 when we first hear the hijackers. The FAA has already notified NORAD according to CNN 6 minutes earlier of a possible hijack of Flight 93. In te tape the FAA is asking if anyone else heard ‘the scream’ because it wasn’t clear. They have been trying to contact Flight 93 for 6 minutes or something? Why isn’t that part publicly available?
3. You hear 2 separate voices say something like: “Everybody remain seated, we have a bomb on board.” They mistakenly press the wrong button twice when they are sending the passagiers a message so that everybody can hear it. There is no interaction with the FAA or anyone else.
4. Someone from one the planes is saying that he sees black smoke puffs at two o’clock when asked to look for Flight 93. It looks like something happened.
5. We don’t hear anyone storming the cockpit.
6. We don’t hear explosions or engine noises.
The point is, we still don’t know what happened.

4.4 The telephone calls that were made.

There are enormous contradictions in the answers on the question if mobile phones could have been used on the high altitudes that Flight 93 was flying at. In a lot of cases the plane was flying at 31.000 feet. What people have to say:

4.5 Possible scenario’s.

5.1 The technical data of the airliners.

5.1.1 The technology behind the black boxes:

Large commercial aircraft like the Boeing 757 and the 767 are required by the FAA to be equipped with 2 different black boxes. The first one is the CVR [Cockpit Voice Recorder] which records radio transmissions and engine sounds, the second is the FDR [Flight Data Recorder] which records all the parameters like time, altitude, airspeed, heading and auto-pilot. The boxes are located in the tale section of the plane so they a very big ‘compression zone’.



Recording time
Impact tolerance
Heat tolerance 1*
Heat tolerance 2**
Water resistance

CVR

30 minute continuous
3400G for 6.5ms
1100C / 2000F for 30 minutes.*
260C / 500F **
20.000ft. / 6100m.

FDR

25 hour continuous
3400G for 6.5ms [both have survived around 6000G]
1100C / 2000F for 30 minutes.*
260C / 500F **
20.000ft. / 6100m.

* New tests are 1 hour in propane fireball.
** Forgot the time, can't find it ATM. It's at least for several hours.

Only a small part of the entire box needs to survive, that’s the memory part where the data is stored, the so-called CSMU [Crash Survivable Memory Units]. Usually the box itself is a complete mess. Former standards were 100G and 1000G.

There were a total of 8 black boxes in these 4 planes. 4 of them were destroyed in the WTC and never found (That is open to speculation since october 2004. Look at the WTC topic.), at least 1 was found in the Pentagon-crash but turned up ‘blank’ and according to the newspapers the black boxes from Flight 93 were found. Later it turned out the CVR only had a few barely audible sentences on it that were quite convenient. We don’t hear anything of the FDR.

I hope to find some exact numbers about the percentage of black boxes that actually turns up ‘blank.’ In the meantime, this quote will have to do:

Ted Lopatkiewicz, spokesman for the National Transportation Safety Board, told CBS News in 2002:
"It's extremely rare that we don't get the recorders back. I can't recall another domestic case in which we did not recover the recorders."

5.1.2 The ‘1.5G limit so NORAD took over the plane myth’:

A lot of claims have been made about the fact if the planes could have been remote controlled. Maybe that is true but one very influential piece that appeared on the internet is 100% disinfo. I’m quoting:

”The Boeing 757 and 767 are equipped with fully autonomous flight capability, they are the only two Boeing commuter aircraft capable of fully autonomous flight.”

Autonomous flight? That’s an expensive word, I had some trouble spelling that. Why don’t you just say autopilot? An autopilot that is just on about every airliner. And in the case of a 757 / 767 the autopilot can fly and land on itself [but some handlings have to be done by hand like landing gear and flaps], but it cannot take off. So ‘fully’ is a little bit misleading because it is usually referred to when someone is talking about a drone who does take-off on it’s own. I am not saying it isn’t possible because it can be done, but the option to take-off on it’s own is normally not installed in these planes because the FAA won’t allow it.

“They are intelligent planes, and have software limits pre set so that pilot error cannot cause passenger injury.. They are limited to approximately 1.5 g's, I repeat, one and one half g's.. No matter what the pilot wants, he cannot override this feature.”

These claims are completely false. There is a very big difference between Boeing and Airbus planes. With an airliner from Boeing, pilots can turn-off the autopilot [autonomous] and pull as many G’s as they can handle. All Airbus airliners since the A320 [1988] have a hard-wired limit of 2.5G that the pilots are allowed too pull. These Airbus planes rely much more on digitalized techniques such as ‘fly by wire’. ‘Fly by wire’ means that a computer adjusts the pilots steering movements according to the data parameters it receives. [air pressure, distance from the ground, speed, etc] An airbus plane also uses digitalized inputs, no force is needed besides pushing the required button. The Boeing 757 / 767 have a hydraulic / conventional steering mechanism. They are working with steel wires and lots of moving parts. In theory a pilot that applies enough force to the steering wheel should be able to overcome the autopilot.

”The plane that hit the Pentagon approached or reached its actual physical limits, military personnel have calculated that the Pentagon plane pulled between five and seven g's in its final turn.”

I cannot comment on that since I have not any accurate data concerning the actual flight path and the speed of the plane besides estimates. I doubt that you have the exact data.

”The 767 and 757 are the only commuter planes made by Boeing that can be flown by remote control. It is a feature that is standard to all of them, all 757's and 767's can do it… Norad can fly the planes to safe destinations via remote. Only in this flight mode can those craft exceed their software limits..”

Completely made up. This feature has not been installed. Of course you can fly a plane like this with remote control, NASA did it in 1984 with a Boeing 720 simulating a crash, but it is not standard.

A few extra notes can be made about how much G an airliner and a pilot without a pressure suit can be able too withstand:

1. Airplane manufacturers don’t seem to brag about the maximum G’s heir plane can take. It looks like that information is not being released. I have not been able to find it anywhere, but have read several times that it is normally not released into the public.
2. The Airbus 2.5G limits have a safety margin of at least 50% and it is confirmed that their planes can take at least 3.8G.
3. In the past a Boeing 747 did come into trouble over the Pacific Ocean. It made a dive 90 degrees towards the ground but the pilots were able get the plane horizontal again by pulling just over 5G. Fortunatly they made to the coast and landed the plane some hours later. However they did lose a few small parts that are still on the bottom of the ocean. So, it is confirmed that a Boeing 747, that is much bigger than a 757 / 767 can pull off a 5G+ maneuver. Does this mean a 757 / 767 can pull off higher G maneuvers without failing or losing parts? I don’t know but I am tempted to say yes.

A 757 / 767 do have the following technology onboard:

1. GPS Global Positioning System navigation
2. FMCS Flight Management Computer System autopilot
3. OPS / OPC Operational Program Software / Configuration uploadable software units.

Predators are controlled by remote control via a satellite. According to some people in the field it shouldn’t be too hard to implement this in the civilian aviation. It might also be possible to preprogram the plane via the above software mentioned, but I cannot be sure since I don’t work in this highly technical field.

UPDATE: Maybe this link from the site of Stanley Hilton can provide some more answers: http://deprogram.info/page6.html (I haven't checked it out yet.)

5.1.3 Airplane altitude and speed:

5.1.4 My opinion if hijackers could have flown those planes:

That’s a very hard question since I have no exact data on the flight paths. Personally I wouldn’t see why these people could not have flown it into the WTC towers. I have done quite some flight sims in my younger years and it seems to me it’s a lot harder to land a plane than it is to crash it on the same thin strip of asphalt. You can look ahead for at least 60km / 40 miles, the twin towers are very big landmarks and you will be able to point your nose to them a very long time before the impact. It’s just like crashing on a runway.

The Pentagon looks a lot harder but I don’t have any good data on height, speed, turn rate, anything. However, witnesses over a distance of at 1.5 miles make no mention of sharp turns, all claim the plane came down in an almost straight line without making too many corrections, so it looks like it could ‘lock onto’ the Pentagon, while the pilots only had to concentrate on height. It seems like their circle around the Pentagon was quite wide since very few witnesses describe seeing the plane while it is turning.
However, the supposed pilot Hani Hanjour seemed to have a lot of trouble even handling a small Cesna plane, just weeks before. That certainly doesn't make sense.

So, my opinion is: As far as I can see the hijackers, in theory, could have flown those planes if the G-forces would not have exceeded too much above 5G. But I cannot be certain since I don’t have all the necessary data and because I am not a pilot. But especially the skill of flight 77 doesn't seem to fit.

Rudi Dekkers to Emperor’s clothes, 13 september 2001 - Interviewed by Jared Israel:
"We train small single engine, small multi-engine airplanes. And they are good for four people; that's it. That's not turbine. Total different systems. Not capable to fly anything like that...what happened was after the training they had here they went to another flight school in Pompano Beach and they had jet training there, simulator or big planes, but there is where they conducted the training to do what they had to do...I have spoken to many captains from the airlines and they say there is no way what the planes did they could have done that. They changed altitude. They changed speed. They changed direction. They had to know about the equipment to do what they had to do and there is no way that could have been done." (http://www.emperors-clothes.com/interviews/dekkers.htm)

5.1.5 The claimes of Colonel Donn. De Grand-Pre:

Donn de Grand-Pre has done a 72 hours non-stop inquiry from 16-19 september 2001 after the 9/11 attacks with a group of military and civilian pilots. Donn made a 24 page review of that meeting and sent it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Gen. Hugh Shelton, who was at time being replaced by gen. Richard Myers. This gen. Hugh Shelton made 500 copies of the report and spread it all over the Pentagon and the White House. Nothing has come out of this report into the public although it did create more unrest between the military and civilian side of the Pentagon, according to Col. Donn. Here are the conclusions of the rapport as documented in a Portugal newspaper, the only paper to mention it at the time:

1.“During the press conference Captain Hill maintained that the four airliners must have been choreographed by an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS). This system can engage several aircraft simultaneously by knocking out their on-board flight controls.”

2.”The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation carried out against the USA, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets.”

3.“ Dr. Paul Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury, and presently Senior Research Fellow at Stamford University, has lent his support to the independent inquiry findings. He also claims that Osama Bin Laden was not responsible for September 11th. The doctor has challenged President Bush to make public the so-called “irrefutable evidence” incriminating Bin Laden.”

4. “THE NEWS, in an attempt to further substantiate the potential veracity of these findings, spoke to an Algarve-based airline pilot, who has more than 20 years of experience in flying passenger planes, to seek his views. Captain Colin McHattie, currently flying with Cathay Pacific, agreed with the independent commission’s findings. However, he explained that while it is possible to fly a plane from the ground, the installation of the necessary equipment is a time-consuming process, and needs extensive planning.”

Alex Jones has done a lenghty interview with him in february of 2004. The only thing I don’t understand is why that rapport is not publicly available. Make a PDF, put it on the web. I would love to see the sources and the caculations.
Update: In the meantime, I have done extensive research on the Pentagon and when I went back to read some of the claims of Colonel Donn The Grand-Pre, I noticed he stated that either a missile or a Global Hawk hit the Pentagon. To me, this means he doesn't know what he is talking about. (http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.html)

5.1.6 Flashes, rails, pods, etc seen on the WTC planes:

A small but enlightening article has also been written by me.

6.1 The big conspiracy: Bin Laden and his gang of freedom-haters. Some of the hijackers turned out to be alive.

A Found to be alive after 9/11 by the mainstream media. The location had also been given.
Pa Thought to be alive but no specific details have been given.
M Former military ties and training with and in the US.

The list is probably incomplete, but this is as far as I have seen up to this moment.

The terrorists:

Osama Bin Laden Pa M Longstanding ties to CIA when fighting the Russians in Afghanistan.
     
Flight 11:    
Waleed M Alshehri A  
Wail Alshehri A Former student Daytona Beach. Pilot with Saudi Airlines.
Mohammed Atta Pa M Father claims he is alive. He spoke to him. ‘Mossad knows more’. Venice Beach. Pilot of flight 11.
Abdulaziz Al-Omari A M Engineer Saudi Telecoms. Lost passport in Denver. In Portland with Atta 9/10??
Satam Al Suqami    
     
Flight 175:    
Marwan Al-Shehhi   Worked close with Mohammed Atta in Florida. Believed to be the pilot of flight 175.
Fayez Ahmed    
Mohald Alshehri A According to Saudi Embassy, location seems to be a guess.
Hamza Al-Ghamdi M  
Ahmed Al-Ghamdi M  
     
Flight 77:    
Khalid Al-Midhar Pa Multiple reports he is still alive. No details.
Majed Moqed    
Nawaq Al-Hamzi    
Salem Al-Hamzi A Works at petrochemical complex in Yanbou, Saudi Arabia. Not a hijacker.
Hani Hanjour   Before 9/11 a disastrous pilot. Flew flight 77 into the Pentagon.
     
Flight 93:    
Ahmed Alhaznawi    
Ahmed Al-Nami A M Adm. supervisor with Saudi Arabian Airlines. Never seen US. Not a hijacker.
Ziad Jarrah   Seem to be 2 Ziad's the FBI has been tracking. Trained at Venice Airport. Supposed pilot of flight 93.
Saeed Al-Ghamdi A M Works for Tunis Air. Not a hijacker.

6.2 The evidence presented against the 19 terrorists.

6.3 The big conspiracy: Official, missing & withheld evidence about the hijackers.

6.4 The Florida flight schools at Venice Beach, Florida. Hundreds of young arabs in a retirement-community. (Most of this has been discovered by Daniel Hopsicker.)

6.5 The evidence presented against Osama Bin Laden and what the man supposedly had to say for himself.

6.6 Possible assassinations

6.7 Tangled webs they weave - Persons and companies that might have known of, or have been involved in 9/11.

* Suspected of arms deals with Adnan Khashoggi. (who is connected to Rudi Deckers backer Wally Hilliard) Head of Brussels office of Soros Open Society. Former girlfriend of the well-known drug kingpin Klaas Bruinsma. She worked with UK drugs kingpin Mike Trace. She is the former girlfriend of Mohammed Sacirbey, who has been caught stealing 2.5 million dollars (London Times) from the United Nations. She also seems to have inside knowledge of the Srebrenica massacre and the Balkan war in general. In 2004 she married to Prince Johan Friso of Orange, but the Klaas Bruinsma scandal made sure Friso would never be able to become king.
** Friso is the second son of queen Beatrix. He worked for Goldman Sachs until he married Mabel. He left as 'vice-president investment banking.' His grandfather is 'Bilderberg Bernhard'. (Who died in 2004)
*** According to Dave Emory these companies (Only Deutsche Bank I don't know) are part of the 'German Underground Reich', the 'Bormann Group' or the 'Fascist International'. This might sounds strange, but he has done good research. See the links page for that.

I only included the 3 hijackers from the Hamburg cell. I don't really know where the rest came from besides that between 7 to 9 have been found to be alive. Their identities had been stolen.

A lot of the persons that are mentioned and who were active in the United States have been covered by Daniel Hopsicker.

7.1 A war in the planning. Project for the New American Century.

7.2 Osama Bin Laden, his family, the Saudi Kingdom and the Bush family.

7.3 A war in the planning. Something is going on between the countries around Pakistan, the US and Mohammed Atta.

7.4 The obviously very dependant 9/11 commission.

The problem is, it doesn’t do anything with the answers. It doesn’t search for contradictions and it excludes anything that might lead to anything more than "our government was unprepared".

8.1 Sources:

links

 

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overing up evidence during the Nixon watergate scandal, but managed as one of the only to escape jail. Has been in at least one more financial scandal.
Jim Thompson: Former governor of Illinois, now chairman of the a large Chicago law-firm. He has been accused of smuggling drugs from China to the US via the CIA. This was done after China didn’t pay the gold it was supposed to do, so they decided drugs would do. Nothing came from the charges.
John Lehman: An investment banker who has worked with Henry Kissinger. He sits on several boards of big companies but seems to be one of the few who isn’t involved in scandals.
Slade Gorton: A former senator of Washington State, who is now involved with a Seattle law firm. Gorton has been quoted by the Seattle Times, right after september 11, saying: “...there was nothing government intelligence officials could have done to thwart the attack.” The Times has quoted him as saying: “I doubt we can expect to get too much inside information no matter what we do.”
Tim Roemer: A moderate Democrat congressman. He is credited with bringing the organization representing survivors and families of victims of the 9/11 attacks into the mix of support for the commission. Member of the House Intelligence Committee.
Max Cleveland: former senator of Georgia. Barring leaks:
” We will have to wait another 17 months to see what the product of the commission will be. By that time the publics attention will undoubtedly be focused on other things.”
Well, that’s the independent commission which represents the people.
  • As usual, the commision focusses itself on diversionary questions. Especially on:

    1. Did this administration take the threat serious enough?
    2. Was Iraq involved?
    3. Was Iran involved?
    4. Should we spent more money on counter-terrorism?

  • It does touch on a few important questions:
  • 1. When was the shootdown order given?
    2. When did NORAD get notified?

    The problem is, it doesn’t do anything with the answers. It doesn’t search for contradictions and it excludes anything that might lead to anything more than "our government was unprepared".

    8.1 Sources:

    links

     

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