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How Americas Zionist controlled media spin the facts.
by Tom Saturday December 28, 2002 at 09:53 AM

Lies, distortions and media manipulation, a Zionist weapon against the Palestinian people.

How Americas Zionist controlled media spin the facts.

This headline "Gunmen invade Israeli school" is the introduction for a news report filed by Moshe Edri, of the Associated Press and published here at the San Antonio Express-News web site 

The article begins.

"OTNIEL, West Bank — Two Palestinians burst into this West Bank settlement Friday and opened fire on Jewish seminary students gathered for a Sabbath dinner in a communal dining hall, killing four Israelis and wounding eight, the army said."

The first paragraph paints a picture of studious Jewish religious students gathered to celebrate a Jewish ritual meal. It appeals to our sense of our natural disgust against any criminal who would attack and kill innocent religious students.

The article manipulates the facts to suggest that only Jewish seminary students were present in the dining room and that they were the focus of the attack.

The reality is somewhat different as can be seen from the article below as published in Ha`aretz an Israeli newspaper. 

[snip]

IDF: Most of wounded in Otniel shooting attack were soldiers

Most of the wounded in the attack on the West Bank settlement of Otniel on Friday night were IDF soldiers, Army Radio quoted the IDF as saying Saturday. Four Israelis were killed and nine were wounded when a gunman infiltated the settlement's dining room Friday night. Two of the dead were also soldiers.

[snip]

One student suffered moderate to serious injuries, and the rest were lightly wounded.

Original article here

These misrepresentation and manipulation of the facts are just one example of how the American people are mislead in relation to news from occupied Palestine.

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IMC-Palestine
by Tom Saturday December 28, 2002 at 09:56 AM

The information above highlights the importance of this web site as a voice to counteract Zionist media manipulation.

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I sent a letter and passed it on
by Average Jeff Saturday December 28, 2002 at 11:05 AM

You may write to the site editor address

letters@express-news.net <letters@express-news.net>

or email each one individually

You may contact senior editors of the San Antonio Express-News at the following e-mail addresses:

Editor, Robert Rivard
rrivard@express-news.net

Managing Editor, Carolina Garcia
cgarcia@express-news.net

AME/Features, Terry Scott Bertling
tbertling@express-news.net

AME/Weekends, Brett Thacker
bthacker@express-news.net

AME/Photos, Graphics, Design, Hallie Paul
hpaul@express-news.net

Design Editor, Dean Lockwood
dlockwood@express-news.net

Metro Editor, Craig Thomason
cthomason@express-news.net

News Research, Kathy Foley
kfoley@express-news.net

Photo Editor, Doug Sehres
dsehres@express-news.net

S.A. Life Editor, Elaine Ayala
eayala@express-news.net

Sports Editor, Richard C. Oliver
rcoliver@express-news.net

State Editor, Gary Newsom
gnewsom@express-news.net

Neighbors Editor, Karen Davis
kdavis@express-news.net

Robert Johnson, Weekender Editor
rjohnson@express-news.net

Karen Haram, Food and Wine Editor
kharam@express-news.net

Rosemary Budge, Fashion Editor
rbudge@express-news.net

Greg Barrios, Book Editor
gbarrios@express-news.net

Rod Davis, Travel Editor
rdavis@express-news.net

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Well done Jeff
by Tom Saturday December 28, 2002 at 11:13 AM
notjust@anywhereusa.com

I had sent a letter to the editor and perhaps others will follow our lead.

Tom

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Average Juif
by Abraham H. Foxman Saturday December 28, 2002 at 01:28 PM

Tom are you co-operating with the nefarious Yid "Average Jeff"? That can't be right!!!!!!!!!!

Tom you are a Pro-Palestinian activist, Average Jeff is a Jewish Zionist paid troll who spams Indymedia with Zionist lies and propaganda.

Tell me Juif what other forums do you and the rest of your Kike crew spam? "Free" Republic maybe? What name"s" do you use there?

By the way this thread has been posted on http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

Best website on the PLANET by a mile!!!!!!!!


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the one sulution to the problem
by dondan Saturday December 28, 2002 at 01:44 PM

the one solution for the problem is taking most of the Arabs sitting in west part of Palestine and move them to the eastern part, that will give enough room for both peoples to live in their own land.

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the one sulution to the problem
by dondan Saturday December 28, 2002 at 01:53 PM

the one solution for the problem is taking most of the Arabs sitting in west part of Palestine and move them to the eastern part, that will give enough room for both peoples to live in their own land.

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In reply to Mr. Abraham H. Foxman
by Tom Saturday December 28, 2002 at 02:43 PM

Let me first state that I dislike the term "Yid".

You say: "Tom are you co-operating with the nefarious Yid "Average Jeff"? That can't be right!!!!!!!!!! "

There are two Average Jeffs who post on this board.

One Average Jeff works to Spam all of the articles on behalf of his Zionist employers.

The second Average Jeff is occupying the handle "Average Jeff" in order to try and combatt the disruption and misinformation published by Zionist average Jeff.


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Other stories reflecting the effects of Israels occupation
by W.O.B Saturday December 28, 2002 at 02:53 PM

Other stories reflecting the effects of Israels occupation on the Palestinian population can be read by clicking on the link below.

http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/comment_latest.php

IMC-Palestine is the best source of news regarding Palestine.

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What Really Happens At Whatreallyhappened.com?
by S. Boyle Saturday December 28, 2002 at 02:56 PM
sboyle2003@yahoo.com

The role of the conspiracy theorist is not to provide answers but to
raise the questions not being asked - to sniff out suspicious patterns
and duplicitous sources. Casting a critical eye at mainstream media is
but one necessary task, casting a critical eye at self-proclaimed
independent media is another - after all, conspiracies don't
conveniently end at corporate boundaries.

Whatreallyhappened.com is one independent website widely referenced by
conspiracy theorists the world over. Yet for a website dedicated to
exposing hidden truths, there is a suspicious lack of information
about those who support the enterprise. Only the editorial commentator
Michael Rivero is a public identified participant, as referenced by a
couple links to off-site interviews (home page, bottom left corner).

While it is true that Michael Rivero's has been published numerous
times on well-established sites like Rense, the Yellow Times, and the
World Net Daily, strangely his interviews were conducted by two
obscure websites, GoOff! and BankIndex. This peculiar choice of "media
outlets" as a promotional tool deserved a closer look.

The GoOff.com interview: - http://www.gooff.com/news/read.asp?ID=1543
GoOff! is backed by Dandelion Books, LLC
(http://www.dandelionbooks.net/), who happens to be the publisher of
Michael Rivero's soon to be released hard-back, Cyber Soldiers And
Silicon Patriots: The New Face Of Political Dissent (ISBN189330230X -
$18.95). GoOff! purports to tell the "...truth uncensored" -
conveniently packaged as Dandelion books, advertised on-site, and
available for purchase or redistribution through their affiliate
program. Overseeing the entire operation is a corporate entity named
PMC4, LLC.

The BankIndex interview: - http://www.bankindex.com/wrh/
The three-part interview conducted by J. Conti (who also writes for
GoOff.com) is displayed between advertisements for loans,
foreclosure notices, debt consolidations, and credit cards offers
endorsed by BankIndex. The financial services site also "provides a
global platform upon which the Financial Businesses of the world can
showcase their product lines and services" and "for select Financial
Institutions we offer a highly competitive fee structure to be
included in our different promotional plans 'Showcase' arena."
(http://www.bankindex.com/company/aboutus.asp) It just so happens that
BankIndex is a division of PMC4, LLC.

So why would Michael Rivero, an avowed anti-globalist, anti-corporate
champion of the truth be working for (or very closely with) a
corporate operation like PMC4, LLC?
(http://www.pmc4.com/version2/index.asp Perhaps a better to ask is
what kind of business is the Aventura, Florida corporation?

"From web hosting to options to mutli-faceted revenue generation
strategies, PMC4, LLC offers a variety of services and solutions
intended to optimize your path to profitability.", and their objective
is to specialize "in assisting small to medium sized businesses as
well as Fortune 100 companies whose resence on the Internet is more
than ancillary to their core business."
http://www.pmc4.com/version2/objective.asp

The "About Us" section reveals five key figures behind the PMC4
corporate structure: James P. Garib, founder of an Intellectual
property development firm; Peter Sordjan, a technology-focused
financial entrepreneur; Ruben D. Lupulescu, a former computer engineer
for Hughes Electronics and DirectTV Latin America; Lawrence D.
Kruguer, a seasoned marketing VP for fat-cats like American Express,
SportsLine, and Alamo Rent-a-Car; and Rico M. Sogocio, attorney and
former member of the United States Department of Justice.
http://www.pmc4.com/version2/garib.asp
http://www.pmc4.com/version2/sordjan.asp
http://www.pmc4.com/version2/lupulescu.asp
http://www.pmc4.com/version2/kruguer.asp
http://www.pmc4.com/version2/sogocio.asp

As you might have guessed, the aforementioned Dandelion Books belongs
to the family of PMC4 holdings. The publishing firm is presided by
Carol Adler, an experienced ghostwriter specializing in Christian and
family writing (http://www.dandelionbooks.net/pr/interview.html).
Naturally, conspiracies are the staple product of this publisher and
Carol Adler is more than happy to review her company's products as
evidenced by this piece from Rense (glowing praise for Gordon Thomas's
book detailing Chinese plans to attack the U.S. via Canada).
http://www.rense.com/general19/DOJconfirmsAL.htm

Shifting the focus back to Michael Rivero, he is a self-described
"twenty-year veteran in all aspects of TV and feature film production
with an emphasis in film effects and computer animation", and
"co-founder and producer at Home Baked Music, a Hawaii-based
production company."
(http://programs.kcc.hawaii.edu/~noncredit/schedule/computer/marhu120.htm)
His list of credits includes; "director of film projects for Robert
Abel & Associates, where he was responsible for animation and computer
graphics, and optical processing. Prior to Abel, he was employed by
Hanna Barbera Productions as a computer graphics engineer and helped
create various innovative strides in animation. Mr. Rivero was also on
the feature film staff of Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation and
through his career has assisted and been involved with feature films
and television shows such as "Valley of the Dolls" (M-O-W), "Star
Trek" (the motion picture), and NBC's "Amazing Stories" (series),
among many others. Mr. Rivero's awards credits include gold, silver,
and bronze medals from the New York International Film Festivals, two
Clios in graphics, the Cable Car award at the San Francisco Film
Festival, an Emmy nomination, and gold & silver Hugos"
http://www.wwmpc.com/The%20WWMPC%20Management.htm

As for his writing credentials, Rivero's credits prove to be less
stellar. For example, Michael Rivero's challenge of Vincent Foster's
suicide, as documented by Dan E. Moldea's published research, was
never satisfactorily resolved:
http://www.moldea.com/Riveropost.html
http://www.moldea.com/Rivero.html


In a Free Republic post at 16:55:55 PST on 12/31/2000, professional
conspiracy theorist and Clinton-hater Michael Rivero made a series of
false and misleading claims about my honest, wholly-responsible, and
well-researched 1998 book, A Washington Tragedy: How the Death of
Vincent Foster Ignited a Political Firestorm. Rivero's participation
in this thread was apparently provoked by an earlier defense, posted
by Kevin Fornshill, the U.S. Park Police (USPP) officer who discovered
Foster's body at Fort Marcy Park. In fact, Rivero's post was a
response to Fornshill, who had lauded my work on the Foster case. (To
read the first chapter of this book, please click "First
Chapters.")...

...final note: I attempted to post this reply to Rivero's shoddy work
at the Free Republic on January 3. However, when I attempted to log
on, I discovered that I had been permanently banned from the site,
apparently for having
the audacity to go there and aggressively defend myself from time to
time. (See: The Free Republic must be held accountable.)

After an exchange of e-mails, Jim Robinson, the overlord of the Free
Republic, confirmed the banning to me, insisting, "I do not want
trouble on the website." However, in an obvious effort to protect his
legal position, Robinson then deleted the entire thread on which
Rivero's irresponsible statements were made.

Nevertheless, my response stands.


More troubling was this brazen misquote caught by sharp-eyed blogger,
Damian Penny:


20.5.02
This is long overdue, but CAMERA, a pro-Israel media watchdog, has
confirmed that Ariel Sharon's "We, the Jewish people, control America"
quote (http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/geyer.html) is a
hoax.

(I sent this article to Michael Rivero, who repeats the quote 5 or 6
times a day. Let's see if he responds.) 7:57PM
http://damianpenny.blogspot.com/2002_05_19_damianpenny_archive.html#76774485

.....

Rivero responds! Wow. Michael Rivero actually responded to an e-mail I
sent drawing his attention to the story debunking Ariel Sharon's
alleged "We, the Jewish people, control America" quote. He didn't
mention that story, though. Instead, he pounced upon my pointing out
that the false quote was spread by a group linked to Hamas - which
Rivero calls an Israeli front group. Here's the complete text of his
message:

The same HAMAS that was set up and funded by Shin Bet to be Arafat's
opposition, yeah, I know them.

Oh, touche!

A history lesson: there's a very tiny kernel of truth in Rivero's
statement. It seems hard to believe, but at one point the Israelis
did funnel money to Hamas
(http://www.newstatesman.com/nssubsfilter.htm) as part of a
divide-and-conquer strategy. Initially they were more opposed to
Arafat than they were to the Israelis, though there seems to have been
a thaw in recent years. (Arafat does allow Hamas to run schools and
other services within his territory, after all.)

Needless to say, the strategy has come back to haunt the Israelis,
time and time again - not unlike America's funding of the anti-Soviet
mujahadeen in Afghanistan, some of whom later became the Taliban. It's
a gigantic leap, however, to comclude that Hamas - which calls for the
complete destruction of Israel and establishment of a strict Islamic
state - is secretly a pro-Israel group whose sole mission is to give
Ariel Sharon an excuse to kill Palestinians. But then again, if
there's one thing we know about Michael Rivero, he has no problem with
making gigantic logical leaps 6:39 AM
http://damianpenny.blogspot.com/2002_05_19_damianpenny_archive.html#76792455


Micael Rivero even went so far as to suggest that the infamously
inaccurate Ariel Sharon quote was cited by Robert Fisk:


06/26/02
(http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=309115)
Robert Fisk: I wonder why Bush doesn't let Sharon run his press office
"I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American
pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the
Americans know it."-- Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001,
as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.


It should come as no surprise that Michael Rivero's deliberately
promoted one of the most vindictive 9/11 myths
(http://www.stardocs.hit.bg/wtc.htm), attributed by investigators like
snopes.com (http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/israel.htm) to Al-Manar
Television, "A Lebanese TV station that aims to preserve the islamic
values and to enhance the civilized role of the Arab and Islamic
Community. Al-Manar is the first Arab establishment to stage an
effective psychological warfare against the Zionist enemy."
http://216.127.70.124/~admin264/html/about.html


by: Michael Rivero
rivero@whatreallyhappened.com

Before the dust had settled from the collapse of the World Trade
Towers, Israel's foreign ministry had expressed concern for the well
being of 4000 Israelis known to have worked in or near the World Trade
Towers. But almost immediately, stories of such concern vanished from
the media amid reports in the foreign press which claimed that
Israelis who worked in or near the World Trade Towers were
specifically given advanced warnings not to go to work on 9-11. One
Israeli owned company, Odigo, had received a two hour advance warning
of the attacks.

Israeli supporters were soon flooding the US media with denials of the
story. Even when the US media's spiking of the Israeli spy ring/phone
tap story proved a clear pro-Israel propaganda bias, the claim that
Israelis working in the area of the WTC were preferentially absent on
9-11 was still dismissed as an internet legend.

Now, however, as the final tally of 9-11 victims is being generated,
CNN's own website, which lists 9-11 victims by nationality, shows that
only one Israeli, Alona Avraham, died in the 9-11 attacks and that Mr.
Avraham was not in or near the WTC, but a passenger on one of the
hijacked aircraft.

Because of Odigo, it is beyond question warnings were sent to Israeli
owned or linked companies in the area of the WTC. Because of the
almost complete absence of Israelis among the victims, it is now
apparent how widespread that warning had to have been.


No retraction or correction has ever been for any of these statements.
Perhaps it's due in large perhaps to Michael Rivero's conspiratorial
pedigree. Long before whatreallyhappened, Michael Rivero gained
national exposure for his part in the TWA Flight 800 controversy"
(http://www.newsday.com/news/nytwa97-ncon314.story). Yet earlier still
he was collaborating with a subversive American para-military group,
the Special Forces Underground
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/commandos/20000918-0010_mz1n18racist.html

Led by Green Beret Steven Barry, the self-proclaimed "commander" of
the secretive group of disgruntled US military elite forces members,
Barry also served as editor of the quarterly newsletter, "The
Resister." Routine commentary vigorously sanctioned a white
supremacist agenda; "The United States military was created by white
men for white men to defend a white nation. It wasn't designed as a
multicultural, diverse, touchy-feely, huggy-snuggly social experiment
in race relations. ... Twenty years ago, you could trust a black to do
a job. Now it' s questionable."


The Resister Issue 1 -
http://www.icomm.ca/survival/resister.don/resistr1.htm
The Purported Newsletter of the Special Forces Underground
----------------------------------------------------------
This is the first issue to appear of a newsletter by a group calling
itself the "Special Forces Underground". This group, embedded deep
within the military structure of the United States, opposes the idea
of a New World Order along with transfer of the soldiers to United
Nations commanders. This document is as I recieved it, outside of HTML
formatting changes.

Volume I, Number 1. Summer 1994.
Boxholder, P.O. Box 1403, Addison, Texas, 75001 (Price) GRATIS...

What We Stand For
The philosophy of The RESISTER is straightforward: strict
constitutionalism, isolationism, laissez-faire capitalism, individual
rights, limited government, and republicanism.

What We Oppose
The RESISTER opposes statism, liberalism, tribalism, socialism,
collectivism, internationalism, democracy, altruism, pull politics,
and the New World Order...

...Questions to the Middle-Aged Mutant Ninja Animator: Michael Rivero:
rivero@accessone.com

.....

The Resister Issue 2 -
http://www.icomm.ca/survival/resister.don/resistr2.htm
The Purported Newsletter of the Special Forces Underground
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Volume I, Number 2. Autumn 1994.
Boxholder, P.O. Box 1403, Addison, Texas, 75001 (Price) GRATIS

...AN OPEN LETTER TO OUR READERS
For the past two months our observers have been reporting that some
readers are questioning the integrity of contributors to The RESISTER
because they choose to be known by pseudonyms rather then their real
names. This is a legitimate concern and it deserves to be answered at
length.

First, no contributor is obliged to use a pseudonym, as anybody who
has actually READ the first issue can tell you. Second, the decision
to require staff members and regular contributors to use pseudonyms
was an OPSEC issue, not an ethical one.

Third, there is a historical precedent we follow which, if not already
familr to you, in all likelihood never will be, and is therefore none
of your business. Fourth, publishing The RESISTER is a security risk
in its own right, let alone referring to in tradecraft and
organization. Really, what DO they teach you guys in the Q-course
these days?

The RESISTER is a response to the altruistic cannibalism which is
consuming the principle of inalienable individual rights upon which
this nation was founded and which have been served-up in sacrifice to
the mob god of democracy, the minority god of tribalism, the nature
god of environmentalism, the slave god of collectivism, and the
statist god of socialism.

Do you want to know who we are? We are the individuals who conceive
the ideas the cretinous mob calls "the team effort." We are the
individuals whose excellence is subverted by the racist policy of
"equal opportunity." We are the independent, innovative, and creative
who have been enslaved to serve the "greater good." Without us you
would still be prying roots out of ground with a pointed stick.

It would be a great comfort and convenience for the myriad
unconstitutional federal agencies to note us, categorize us, and file
us away for future "reference." We will not give them an early chance,
nor will we be goaded into identifying ourselves by sneering comments
about anonymous writers.

Every whim based, undefined, un-judicable law it passes; every
unconstitutional gang of armed badge wielding thugs it deploys; every
unconstitutional agency it creates; every incomprehensible special
interest regulation it mandates; every dime extorted through taxation
and redistributed to the incompetent and undeserving; every American
life lost in some altruistic war, humanitarian assistance, or
peacekeeping operation, demonstrates the illegitimacy of the federal
government.

The federal government os not "of the people," it is the instrument of
pull-peddlers. It is not "by the people," it is the toady of special
interests. It is not "for the people," it is the exercise of force for
the sake of force.

Pass laws against us; we will not obey. Regulate our activities; we
will not comply. Legislate our behavior; we will not consent.

We are freemen. We will not be subjugated. We have the guns to prove
it.
THE EDITOR

...Questions to the Middle-Aged Mutant Ninja Animator: Michael Rivero:
rivero@accessone.com


Clearly Michael Rivero has called into question his own integrity as a
purveyor of truth with suspicious connections and prejudicial
innuendo. It stands to reason that Michael Rivero's intentions for
whatreallyhappened is not to promote truth but a contrarian political
agenda - just as militant, manipulative, and deceitful as its
opposition. While no one is suggesting that he US Government is
without significant problems worth investigation, what must never be
taken for granted is the benevolence of self-proclaimed watchdogs.


"That's not to say that What Really Happened is the conduit to truth.
But what the web site does is let people know that there are ways to
find out what is going on if what one is being told by the media does
not make sense.

I think that the nation is in the trouble it is in because people were
conditioned to watch a talking head on the TV and believe what that
talking head was saying. People need to stop relying on other people
to tell them what reality is and rely on their own analytical ability
to figure out what is going on"

- Michael Rivero


So true, Michael, so very, very true.

S. Boyle, December 9, 2002

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Other stories reflecting the effects of Israels occupation
by W.O.B Saturday December 28, 2002 at 03:12 PM

Other stories reflecting the effects of Israels occupation on the Palestinian population can be read by clicking on the link below.

http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/comment_latest.php

IMC-Palestine is the best source of news regarding Palestine.

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Tom
by Abraham H. Foxman Saturday December 28, 2002 at 03:14 PM

Thank you Tom for the info, I didn't know there was 2 Average Jeffs. I haven't posted here for quite a while, so I'm not up to date to what's going on here. I had a few run-ins with the Average Juif in the past. And I know how annoying the Kike is.

Why doesn't the Moderator ban Average Juif's IP address? Hence preventing him spamming?

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Mr. Abraham H. Foxman
by Tom Saturday December 28, 2002 at 03:26 PM

Mr. Abraham H. Foxman, you must be aware that the term " Kike" is a disgusting racial term.

Your use of that word implies that you are either ignorant of its implications or a racist.

This web site is used to high light the effects of Zionist racism against the Palestinian people.

I am as much against your (perceived) racism against the Jewish people as I am against Zionist racism.

You bring no benefit to the struggle of Palestinian people if your cause is Anti-Semitism.

I hope I may be wrong in my assumptions. If I am, please forgive my error.

Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionist are Jews.

Please take a moment to visit this web site.

ZIONISTS DO NOT REPRESENT JEWS

From the inception of the Zionist State and particularly in recent times, the impression has been created in the World that there is some connection between the State, which falsely calls itself Israel, and the Jewish people as a whole. Therefore, we who continue to uphold the never-changing tradition of the Jewish people find it proper to again clarify the following points:
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

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Further evidence of Zionist press lies in the UK.
by Tom Saturday December 28, 2002 at 03:37 PM

GUN BATTLE KILLS 4 STUDENTS

FOUR Israeli students died after Palestinian gunmen burst into a Jewish seminary.

Another eight students were wounded in the dining hall massacre during a Sabbath dinner on Friday evening in the West Bank settlement of Otniel. The terrorists were shot dead by Israeli soldiers.

For the real details behind the story scrool up or visit this link.

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=245943&contrassID=1&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=0

==========================================
How can the Palestinian people ensure that the truth is told about the effects of Israeli occupation when such lies go without challenge ?

You can help!

Write to the Sunday Mail at online@sundaymail.co.uk
AND DEMAND THAT THE REPRINT THE STORY

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It HAS been
by Average Jeff Saturday December 28, 2002 at 03:40 PM

It HAS been...
flag.giffylv0l.gif, GIF image, 80x58

"I haven't posted here for quite a while"

Like, Never?

http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/?author=Abraham+H.+Foxman&comments=yes

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SO... Zionazi?
by Aaron Saturday December 28, 2002 at 03:49 PM

S. Boyle, you seem to be a Nazi shill. Seems you went to a lot of trouble to dig up dirt on Mr. Rivero. Is that because you think that your god made you one of the chosen people, whatever that means?

Aaron.

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Been ignored all day long, haven't ya?
by Tom created Israel Saturday December 28, 2002 at 04:00 PM

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


You guys are so cute when you beg for my attention.

(blush)

When Tom allows the grown ups to have a discussion, the sapm will stop.

Israel stays

Crybaby

"Tom" seems to spend his entire day rallying against the Jew.

He couches under the arguement of "zionism"

Zionism:

"A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel."

The funny thing is, as the above definition proves, "Zionism" and, in fact, the State of Israel itself is a DIRECT result of the "Toms" of this world.

In other words....

No "Toms".....No "Israel"

Proving once again, that God has an acute sense of humor.

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Zionist Spam
by Tom Saturday December 28, 2002 at 04:09 PM

 Average Jeff (AKA. Poor old Tom) refuses to allow free speech and information regarding the attempt by Israel to ethnically cleanse the indigenous population of Palestine.

We must all remember that Average Jeff (AKA. Poor old Tom) is a Zionist. He is therefore supportive of the criminal acts associated with this racist, political philosophy. Every time he posts his nonsense Spam it is an indication of the depth of his fears that people will be educated about the horrific atrocities committed on a daily basis by Zionist troops.

His Spam is an indication of our effectiveness as we publish hundreds of stories, which illuminate the suffering of the Palestinian people and the racism, which they are forced to live on a daily basis.

His alluding to no existent "skin head" posts by me is just the same old tired attempt to project an image of those who disagree with Zionism as Anti-Semitic. I think if such post existed he would have posted links to them. In fact I am sure that he may well post such articles under my handle in order to detract from our voice, which commits the crime of demanding equal rights for all in the historic land of Palestine.

Why expect anything other than harassment, distortion, lies, innuendo, and torture from anyone who supports Zionism. 

Average Jeff (AKA. Poor old Tom) does more for the Palestinian cause by his Spam than may at first be apparent. Every visitor to this site must surely see through his childish efforts to distort and prevent the dissemination of information relating to the crimes of Zionism. I AM SURE IT IS APPARENT TO ALL, THAT

Zionism is "SAD"

 

The Palestinian people deserve a voice.

Please scroll up past the Zionist Spam to read the original articles.

The following quotes make clear the intent and desperation of those who would prefer that the suffering and destruction suffered by the Palestinian people at the hands of Zionism never saw the light of day.

Joseph Sorbran: "The attempt to silence a man is the greatest honour you can bestow on him. It means that you recognise his superiority to yourself."

 

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Been ignored all day long, haven't ya?
by Tom created Israel Saturday December 28, 2002 at 04:11 PM

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Loser.


You guys are so cute when you beg for my attention.

(blush)

When Tom allows the grown ups to have a discussion, the spam will stop.

Israel stays

Crybaby

"Tom" seems to spend his entire day rallying against the Jew.

He couches under the arguement of "zionism"

Zionism:

"A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel."

The funny thing is, as the above definition proves, "Zionism" and, in fact, the State of Israel itself is a DIRECT result of the "Toms" of this world.

In other words....

No "Toms".....No "Israel"

Proving once again, that God has an acute sense of humor.

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How Americas Zionist controlled media spin the facts.
by Tom Saturday December 28, 2002 at 04:19 PM

How Americas Zionist controlled media spin the facts.
by Tom Saturday December 28, 2002 at 09:53 AM

Lies, distortions and media manipulation, a Zionist weapon against the Palestinian people.

 

How Americas Zionist controlled media spin the facts.

This headline "Gunmen invade Israeli school" is the introduction for a news report filed by Moshe Edri, of the Associated Press and published here at the San Antonio Express-News web site 

The article begins.

"OTNIEL, West Bank — Two Palestinians burst into this West Bank settlement Friday and opened fire on Jewish seminary students gathered for a Sabbath dinner in a communal dining hall, killing four Israelis and wounding eight, the army said."

The first paragraph paints a picture of studious Jewish religious students gathered to celebrate a Jewish ritual meal. It appeals to our sense of our natural disgust against any criminal who would attack and kill innocent religious students.

The article manipulates the facts to suggest that only Jewish seminary students were present in the dining room and that they were the focus of the attack.

The reality is somewhat different as can be seen from the article below as published in Ha`aretz an Israeli newspaper. 

[snip]

IDF: Most of wounded in Otniel shooting attack were soldiers

Most of the wounded in the attack on the West Bank settlement of Otniel on Friday night were IDF soldiers, Army Radio quoted the IDF as saying Saturday. Four Israelis were killed and nine were wounded when a gunman infiltated the settlement's dining room Friday night. Two of the dead were also soldiers.

[snip]

One student suffered moderate to serious injuries, and the rest were lightly wounded.

Original article here

These misrepresentation and manipulation of the facts are just one example of how the American people are mislead in relation to news from occupied Palestine.

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Zionist bias at ITV (London)
by Gerald Aldermast Saturday December 28, 2002 at 05:56 PM

Here in London, we have exactly the
same problem. Zionist bias in the
media. One of the main terrestrial
television channels, ITV ran a piece
on the four year old Palestinian girl
who _had_ died after being shot in
the head by IDF militia men.

The story ran..

"Palestinian doctors _claimed_ that
the four year old girl had died after
being hit in the head with a bullet"

"Claimed"? Do Palestinian doctors
normally tell lies about the cause of
their patients' deaths?

No, I didn't think so, either.

Palestinians: There are many out here
who are with you.. Hold on in there.
This can't go on much longer.

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OPEC control the media
by fuckoff Saturday December 28, 2002 at 06:00 PM

Obviously. TheMedia report nothing but Israel/Palestine, completely ignore eg.SUDAN.
Arabs carry out genocide in Sudan free of media attention, if Israel was plotting genocide media attention is the last thing they want! SO it follows naturally THEarabs control the media not THEjews.

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OPEC control the media
by fuckoff Saturday December 28, 2002 at 06:01 PM

Obviously. TheMedia report nothing but Israel/Palestine, completely ignore eg.SUDAN.
Arabs carry out genocide in Sudan free of media attention, if Israel was plotting genocide media attention is the last thing they want! SO it follows naturally THEarabs control the media not THEjews.

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this is PALESTINE indymedia
by Average Jeff Saturday December 28, 2002 at 09:22 PM

If the truth hurts then fuck off yourself.

====

Lies, distortions and media manipulation, a Zionist weapon against the Palestinian people.


How Americas Zionist controlled media spin the facts.

This headline "Gunmen invade Israeli school" is the introduction for a news report filed by Moshe Edri, of the Associated Press and published here at the San Antonio Express-News web site

The article begins.

"OTNIEL, West Bank — Two Palestinians burst into this West Bank settlement Friday and opened fire on Jewish seminary students gathered for a Sabbath dinner in a communal dining hall, killing four Israelis and wounding eight, the army said."

The first paragraph paints a picture of studious Jewish religious students gathered to celebrate a Jewish ritual meal. It appeals to our sense of our natural disgust against any criminal who would attack and kill innocent religious students.

The article manipulates the facts to suggest that only Jewish seminary students were present in the dining room and that they were the focus of the attack.

The reality is somewhat different as can be seen from the article below as published in Ha`aretz an Israeli newspaper.

[snip]

IDF: Most of wounded in Otniel shooting attack were soldiers

Most of the wounded in the attack on the West Bank settlement of Otniel on Friday night were IDF soldiers, Army Radio quoted the IDF as saying Saturday. Four Israelis were killed and nine were wounded when a gunman infiltated the settlement's dining room Friday night. Two of the dead were also soldiers.


[snip]

One student suffered moderate to serious injuries, and the rest were lightly wounded.


Original article here

These misrepresentation and manipulation of the facts are just one example of how the American people are mislead in relation to news from occupied Palestine.

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Abe Foxman?
by drumblebum Saturday December 28, 2002 at 09:22 PM
drumblebum@yahoo.com

Abraham Foxman? Aren't you the National Director for the ADL? If you aren't, why are you using his name?

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Boyle
by Abraham H. Foxman Sunday December 29, 2002 at 05:00 AM

Boyle: a rather pathetic attempt at a "character assassination" of Michael Rivero. Clearly Whatreallyhappened.com is succeeding in breaking through the Zionist Media censorship and providing people with independent impartial news. Something that you evidently don't like! Tough!

More and more people log on to whatreallhappened.com every day and there is nothing you can do about!

Whatreallyhappened.com has caused a crack to appear in the damn of lies propagated by the Zionist Media, eventually the damn will break and a river of truth will burst through

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whatreallyhappened
by Average Jeff Sunday December 29, 2002 at 05:28 AM

Bwhahahahahahhhahahahahahaha

Now THERES a news source for ya!

LOL

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Amazing
by Bla G. Heams Sunday December 29, 2002 at 06:18 AM

It's amazing how Consiracy theorists can write such thought provoking articles, but then squabble amongst eachother like children for credibility. You should have the utmost respect for each others opinions, because that's genereally what you fight for: The right to an opinion! Yes, I go to whatreallyhappened.com - It has opened my eyes on MANY issues. Now, I don't agree with everything that's said on the site, but I do like another conduit through which I can get a less "mainstream" opinion. "If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise we do not believe in it at all." - Noam Chomsky

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Mike Rivero is a modern day HERO
by artbishop Sunday January 12, 2003 at 04:15 PM

Mike Rivero is a modern day HERO.

WRHappened, GNNetwork, Indymedia ,RMNews, Alternet, AntiWar,MMOORE, Rense, Icke,Jared Ysrael,FTWilderness Mike Rupert JustinRaymundo,NFBabylon,UnansweredQuestions Catherine Austin Fitts,911TIMELINE Paul Thompson,VOXNYC,Infowar,CounterpunchesAlexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair NChomsky
Edward Said to name a few are all HEROS and ROLE MODELS to all us "conspiracy theorists".

What really Happened and the other anti war pro peace dot coms are like visine for the brain.

Zionism IS Racism = Anti Zionist is NOT Anti Semitic

In the 91 gulf war the internet was not around like it is today.Most of us reading this became computer litterate only after windows 95 user friendly marketing blitz.We were outraged then as we were outraged in Vietnam Panama but we did not have the POWER of the internet where we can GLOBALY VOICE our disgust with the hawkish warmongers defense contractors who are taking us on a nuclear world war.

Never has the WHOLE WORLD been in complete disagreement with OUR COUNTRY and with our BULLY foreign policy.And although Blair is with Bush the BRITISH PEOPLE are united against this phoney warrenterra.We have sent BLIX to iraq when he really
should be in the DIMONA NUCLEAR PLANT in the NEGEV DESERT IN ISRAEL,DISARMING the Israeli ZIONISTS of their nuclear weapons of mass destruction.

Whether sharon said we the jews control the usa or not is irrelevant.WE KNOW the zionists control washington and the usa we didnt need sharon to confirm that to us.

We dont need Bush to tell us that Sharon is a man of Peace either.He was telling us that lie hoping we would think he was a man of peace too.The moron.

The moron? He is not just a moron, he is a moronmurderer.

If Ariel Sharon is a man of Peace then could someone please call the pope in rome and tell him Noam Chomsky should be canonized a saint.

Bush KNEW about 911 and did NOTHING.

[http://www.newsfrombabylon.com/media/911short.swf]

People were jumping to their deaths out of the World Trade Center and he sat there smiling reading about a goat.

WHY ON EARTH did he not DO anything?

WHY?

He WAITED for the other two planes to "crash" and the shadow governments operation to finish before he declared an emergency and had airforce jetrs scramble and clear the skies when he should have done that from the FIRST SECOND he heard about the WTC.

HE KNEW.They KNEW.

Now WE ALL KNOW.

They are guilty.

We are going to war with Iraq when we should be INVESTIGATING BUSH CHENEY REDRUMSFELD and their ROLE in 911.

The real evil dewars.

Mike Rivero is a man of peace.

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Tom Brokaw Doing Cushy Anti-Iraq Piece. How Convenient.
by NBC Broadcasting anti-iraq Propaganda tonight Sunday January 12, 2003 at 07:41 PM

Tom Brokaw Doing Cushy Anti-Iraq Piece. How Convenient.

Iraqi exiles whining about how things "used to be" and "yearning" for "liberation".

Fake democracy under U.S. Oil Company rules.

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Tom Brokaw Doing Cushy Anti-Iraq Piece. How Convenient
by NBC Broadcasting anti-iraq Propaganda tonight Sunday January 12, 2003 at 07:46 PM

Second part of the show is about?...................

Poor Israel. Poor Israelis who might suffer from Saddam attacks after the "war". (war is what we are supposed to call the massacre of Iraqis and the theft of their resources).

What a joke.

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Mike Rivero is my nominee for a nobel consideration
by Norman Cowell aka Zero Man Sunday January 12, 2003 at 10:38 PM
pacificozonecompany@yahoo.com

Ok, If your blue, remember to breath.... "Conspire" means 'to breath with.' Mike Rivero's site is a breath of freshness in an era of smoke filled rooms and chokeing political agendas. Conspiracy theory should be in fact seen as conspiracy actuality as those in positions of power who are afraid of losing their power have already lost it . In fewer words it distills down to this. "To the extent that you attempt to impose your will on someone, to that very extent you yourself are inslaved..." Mike Riveros site is not breathing down anyones neck. You tap in and are free to tap out. However the people who are conspiring to breath down our collective necks and trash the Republic and shread our means to exist are blatant and actual... No theories or hypotheses in play, its now and in our face.
Its some bad breath from a fire breathing dragon and Mike Rivero is currently a dragon slayer. His sword is his site.
The only criticism I would render is more of a suggestion... don't read alot of the material before bedtime. Go read your kids a bed time story and then go add a finishing touch to your partners day.
But come midday tomorrow, ck. WRH and forward the nuggets to everyone you know and picture this fascist scabb flaking away like a coat we no longer need to wear. Go Micheal!!!

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The film was banned for public screening in Israel
by The film was banned in I Monday January 13, 2003 at 12:41 AM

A copy ao the film "Jenin. Jenin" by Muhamad Bakri,
can be obtained through Arab Film Distribution/
The film was banned for public screening in Israel.

http://www.arabfilm.com/item/242/

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Mr
by Carl Wernerhoff Monday January 13, 2003 at 01:10 AM

I am also a great admirer of Mike Rivero, with the exception of what seems to me his completely nutty pro-gun attitude. But apart from that he is clearly one of the people who is doing the most to inform the public about what is really happening/has really happened in America. A lot of people diss the site because it deals in conspiracy theories, but anyone who has even dipped into the literature about the CIA and the other national security agencies knows that there are plenty of conspiracies going on. To be honest, in a world teeming with FBI, CIA, MI5, Mossad, and ISI agents (add a liberal dose of ex-Nazis, ex-KGB, and agents associated with other fallen dictatorships) you'd have to be mad to think there weren't any conspiracies going on.


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SOME PROOF OF MEDIA LIES
by SOME PROOF OF MEDIA LIES Monday January 13, 2003 at 01:37 AM







Concerning the above pictures:

The central core and perimeter wall have been marked in red (the inner rectangle bounds the central core and the outer rectangle bounds the perimeter wall). "Trusses" visible at the top level have been marked in white, those visible one floor down have been marked in magenta.

So what do you see with your own eyes? Trusses or solid steel girders?

Thats right, you see solid steel girders (and these are laid out according to the plan for the positioning of the supposed trusses).

You do not see trusses, you see solid steel girders.

For the article that the above pictures came from see:

They Lied About the Trusses.

The mythical trusses, the central core and the perimeter wall of the World Trade Center are all introduced in the article:

The World Trade Center Demolition..

There you will find out their dimensions, their numbers and their supposed usage. The following illustration describes one of the mythical trusses.


A full list of articles from www.nerdcities.com/guardian can be found at:

http://www.nerdcities.com/guardian

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Prozionac
by artbishop Monday January 13, 2003 at 02:42 AM

MR"you'd have to be mad to think there weren't any conspiracies going on."

You'd have to be on a high dose of PROZIONAC to think there weren't any conspiracies going on."

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I agree, Mike Rivero IS pretty much the man!!
by Effendi Monday January 13, 2003 at 05:53 AM
DJEffendi@Hotmail.com

I have been using the valuable information from WhatreallyHappened.com daily for a long time. I post in Seattle on NWTekno.com on a daily basis, and usually post at least 3 of his postings on our board. I know we have alot of exposure as I get Love and Hate E-mails regularly. The Hate ones come from what I deem the Right Wing Republican "American" Taliban supporters, who think wanker is the best thing since hot buttered toast. But I get alot more from people saying "Thanks alot Scott for posting that, I didn't know about that before", and I tell you what, I'd sure like to Take Mike out and buy him a drink or two, we are definetly cut from the same cloth. Yea I get called Anti-semetic alot also, but "Like Mike" I have gone out of my way to desensitize the meaning of that word. It's like calling a Black "Nigger", it's a sane word, used by that race constantly, but if your white........Besides buying Mike a drink, I propose that the word "Terror" is an israeli invention. Before Munich in 73' NO-One used the word "Terrorist". Were there "Terrorists" in world war 11?...Did we refer to the vietcong as Terrorists? How come all of a sudden any enemy of the United States is labled a "Terrorist". I tell you why, because any Enemy of israel is a Terrorist. israeli fighting men are called "Commando's" or "Soldiers" Arab fighting men get the label "Terrorist" And by the by Mike, Just because we may be abit paranoid doesn't mean that we are NOT sorrounded by conspiracies and that someone may well be out to get us. My Mantra is, and has been for a long time, No More American Lives..No More American Money!! Keep up the GREAT work!! I wannabe like Mike...lol
Effendi

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"nutty"pro-gun attitude
by Patrick Henry Monday January 13, 2003 at 08:24 AM

nutty, you say? I quote the Clash's "Guns of Brixton":

when they kick at your front door
how YOU gonna come?
with your hands on your head
or on the trigger of your gun?
when the law break in
how YOU gonna go?
shot down on the pavement
or waiting on Death Row?

give me LIBERTY or give me death

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